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Headers?

Posted: 12/14/04 9:44pm Message 1 of 17
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henderson, NV - USA
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Hey guys,

Before I ask my question....
As you guys may know: I’m a struggling 16 year old kid working at Kmart trying to make ends meet to fix this Vette, Kmart recently laid me off, and it’s going to be awhile before I get my hours back. At this point now it’s getting to where parts are about $300+ each. I fixed my Dad's boss' computer and for that he gave me a set of these bad boys: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=98052&prmenbr=361 MY question is: Even if I did get $200USD (never used) for these I would still need $125 more to get my Hedmen ceramic coated headers. What is the performance difference between these 'shorties' and normal long pipe headers? I don't really have the extra $125 for the Headmens. What should I do?

Here is the link to the pictures my headers:
http://fattyslims.com/vette/pics/Restoration%20Part%202/engine_after1/compressed/headers/

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-Louis

|UPDATED|12/14/2004 9:59:15 PM (AZT)|/UPDATED|



-LOUIE

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Posted: 12/14/04 10:12pm Message 2 of 17
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Heck those are some nice headers. They certainly will flow better than you old ramshorn manifolds. They should work fine for your engine. If I had those and was on a tight budget I would stick with those. Are they ceramic coated?


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Posted: 12/14/04 11:29pm Message 3 of 17
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Ya, these are ceramic coated. I was thinking of once the car was done sell those, or just buy the headers I want. I liek these though because they would fit nice int he compartment, tir it all together, and the flange is thick so I won't have a bolt falling out problem as much.


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Posted: 12/14/04 11:46pm Message 4 of 17
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youre going to have a bolt problem regardless of the flange thickness if you dont get locking header bolts.


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Posted: 12/15/04 1:06am Message 5 of 17
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Ya, I know. But I was told taht the thicker the flange the less of a problem you will have, and to me it only makes sense.


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Posted: 12/15/04 7:37am Message 6 of 17
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Those are very nice headers, especially since they're ceramic coated. I have shorties on mine, but they're chrome. The only thing I would do differently is get the ceremic coating. They run cooler and don't change color.


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Posted: 12/15/04 11:18am Message 7 of 17
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Something to consider. If you run the shortys and later switch to long tubes you will need to have a new head pipe from the header to the mufflers made. The bolt up areas will be completely different.

Depending on how much it costs you to make a second head pipe you may be better off spending the money you would spend on a second head pipe and apply it towards the long tubes. Then you only need to build one system.

my two cents.


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Posted: 12/15/04 1:33pm Message 8 of 17
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 new77guy said: Ya, I know. But I was told taht the thicker the flange the less of a problem you will have, and to me it only makes sense. 


true it might take two weeks to get loose and back out instead of one.. either way its unacceptable


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Posted: 12/15/04 4:01pm Message 9 of 17
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Ya I know, all headers are going to eventually do it. But I have no idea what I'm goign to do. I'm building a custom exhaust anyhow. I don't just wanna not use my FREE headers. I am ona really tight budget for a year or so. Read this:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/raysur/index6.shtml He modified his shortys because he seen lots of room for improvment! Dude... I have no idea......


-LOUIE

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Posted: 12/18/04 11:16am Message 10 of 17
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Louis don't chringe. But you may want to use stock manifolds until the budget allows you to do it the way you want, instead of doing it twice.


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