Topic: My experience w/ Hooker Sidepipes and my '81
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I finished this project up months ago, but I've been so busy, I haven't been on C3VR in a while. Here's a picture, hopefully... Once I get the picture working, I'll post some lessons learned from the project...
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First, thanks so much for all the great advise on this forum. You guys gave me the confidence that the pipes would be an easy project on the '81. It was.
Details: Hooker sidepipes with Jet Hot's "Sterling" coating. It has a sheen close to polished aluminum, so it matches the wheels really well. The shields are from cobrastuf.com and have the same coating.
Lessons learned from the experience and from the great advice I received:
The 1-7/8" primary tubes are too big for optimal low-end torque. However, It hasn't been intolerable, I love the looks and the mid-to-high RPM torque is still there. I can't compare it to how this engine would perform with 1-5/8" headers, as I didn't try those first...
You WILL burn yourself severly, so get shields. Actually, I didn't, but my 15 year old son did. Very bad burn from a light bump.
I had to trim a little off the rocker covers to clear the tubes where they come under the front fender. Expected that. Didn't expect that I'd also have to trim them to allow clearance for the bolt that supports the rear of the pipes, plus two cutouts on each cover to allow the heat shield clamps to clear. Still looks good, but the covers would be ruined for non-sidepipe use.
Sidepipes are very loud. I went with Spiral Turbo Baffle mufflers. Installed right out of the box, they are very load, even at idle. At WOT, they sound like I'm at the drag strip or truck pull, seriously.
I like it, my son likes it, wife hates it. I have to admit, it's a bit much for a car that I drive on weekends and and maybe an evening errand. They are made by spiraling a piece of stainless steel around a 1-5/8" tube. The exhaust going through the tube gets no baffling. I toned them down a bit by putting a 1-/12" tailpipe expander in each of those tubes, tightening it and leaving it there. Still pretty load, but makes the wife and neighbors a bit happier. Also, I can get to them to remove or reinstall them with a ratchet, extension and flew joint, without having to remove dissemble anything else.
Details: Hooker sidepipes with Jet Hot's "Sterling" coating. It has a sheen close to polished aluminum, so it matches the wheels really well. The shields are from cobrastuf.com and have the same coating.
Lessons learned from the experience and from the great advice I received:
The 1-7/8" primary tubes are too big for optimal low-end torque. However, It hasn't been intolerable, I love the looks and the mid-to-high RPM torque is still there. I can't compare it to how this engine would perform with 1-5/8" headers, as I didn't try those first...
You WILL burn yourself severly, so get shields. Actually, I didn't, but my 15 year old son did. Very bad burn from a light bump.
I had to trim a little off the rocker covers to clear the tubes where they come under the front fender. Expected that. Didn't expect that I'd also have to trim them to allow clearance for the bolt that supports the rear of the pipes, plus two cutouts on each cover to allow the heat shield clamps to clear. Still looks good, but the covers would be ruined for non-sidepipe use.
Sidepipes are very loud. I went with Spiral Turbo Baffle mufflers. Installed right out of the box, they are very load, even at idle. At WOT, they sound like I'm at the drag strip or truck pull, seriously.


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John, Your car looks so nice!!! Everything just comes together. Thanks for sharing the pic and the words of advice. I am sure there are those who will appreciate this posting![size]
Nice, gives me a picture of what my car will look like. I have the hooker side pipes with the sterling ceramic coating also, I got the glass pack mufflers because of the noise issue. I have shields but mine are from
http://www.steelshields.com/products.html#corvettes
I hope they go on easy. Have to get the ZZ4 installed first.
By the way, your Vette looks super!
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I can smell the burning flesh from here!

Looks good, tho!

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Interesting ? I have the spiral turbo baffles and I have a BB and the sound is not loud at all. I actually think it should be louder. When I get on it the sound is nice and throaty.
Yes, I have burned myself many, many times. I do not have any protective shields, however great scar stories in the bar !!!

Thanks for all the advice. I was thinking of side pipes for my 74. Probably will just stay with the stock system. But they really look nice. I see Hooker has a new "Tuned Flow Muffler". Does anybody have info on these? Thanks

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For those who like the looks, but don't want to run afoul of the local gendarms(or the wife), you can just hang the sidepipes on the car without hooking them up. You get the kewl look of having them, and not getting busted for being eco-unfriendly, or having Mama burn her pretty legs.
The best sidewinders were the original '69 set-ups. Great sound, with NO burn scar problems getting in/out of the car. The only problem with them is finding a set that won't break the bank!
I built a '77 for a guy I worked for a few years back, and I found a set of original '69 side covers, but not the pipes. So...we took the car to the muffler shop and had them run "S" pipes from the headers down the side of the car, with glass-packs, and turn-downs. All of it fit nicely under the covers, so...the car looked great, but wasn't overly harsh sounding.

The best sidewinders were the original '69 set-ups. Great sound, with NO burn scar problems getting in/out of the car. The only problem with them is finding a set that won't break the bank!

I built a '77 for a guy I worked for a few years back, and I found a set of original '69 side covers, but not the pipes. So...we took the car to the muffler shop and had them run "S" pipes from the headers down the side of the car, with glass-packs, and turn-downs. All of it fit nicely under the covers, so...the car looked great, but wasn't overly harsh sounding.

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Scott, I can't even imagine how the spiral turbo baffle mufflers could be too quite for you. I haven't tried it yet with just the sidepipes and no mufflers, but I it can't be that much difference. You sure you don't have hearing loss from the exhaust and just can't hear it anymore 
Loud or not, I agree that those mufflers produce a great, aggressive tone.

Loud or not, I agree that those mufflers produce a great, aggressive tone.
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