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q-jet tuning

Posted: 10/17/17 7:19pm Message 1 of 31
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Sent the Q-jet from my '80 L82 off for professional rebuild to Cliff's high performance. They set it up appropriately for the L82 engine compression and cam. Once back it started OK but of course there was some need for getting the electric choke, high idle, curb idle adjusted. I have that all pretty well tuned in now but there are two outstanding issues. 

First, it takes about 45 seconds to a minute before tapping the pedal gets it to drop off the high idle cam notch.

Second, once it is fully warmed up and idling at around 650 (and sounding like it's ready to die as L-82's always do) if I place my hand over the open choke plate it will rev up another 300 to 400 rpm. I assume this indicates that it is running lean and thus I need to open up the idle mixture screws. But I would like some confirmation first. Thoughts?



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Re: q-jet tuning

Posted: 10/17/17 7:55pm Message 2 of 31
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Assuming that you used the factory service manual method to set the idle speed and mixture screws, the engine shouldn't act like it wants to die. Mine never did.  Try shooting some propane in and see what the idle does.  FWIW, the idle is supposed to be as lean as you can get it.


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Posted: 10/17/17 8:28pm Message 3 of 31
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I'll take a look at it and see what it can do. 

But the fact is even from the factory it sounded like it wanted to die at idle even when warm (yes I bought it new). It didn't die, but always sounded close even at around 650 RPM. When cold and in gear if it was stopped with the brake on I always had to keep one foot on the brake and the other on the gas to keep it from stalling. If you turned the curb idle up to run cold then it roared at idle when warm. The late 70's and early 80's Q-jets had the idle mixture screw access holes plugged so you couldn't adjust the idle mixture. They were intentionally very lean both in setting and the size of the idle flow ports to help meet emission standards. 

But I'll take look at the manual, ignoring all the set this at 19.21 degrees and that at 0.002" height etc. and just work the adjustments. 



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Posted: 10/18/17 7:35pm Message 4 of 31
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Did you talk to Cliff's to see if they had any suggestions?


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Posted: 10/19/17 6:04am Message 5 of 31
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Yes I did. After rebuild they test all the carbs they do. He did say that the idle mixtures would likely need to be adjusted specifically for the engine. I did make an adjustment and got to the point where warmed up I could lightly cover the choke plate with virtually no change in RPM. After that I though I had the Accel 300+ multispark ignition module fail (another thread) and took that off. Now when warmed up there is this issue with the idle mixture. I find it hard to believe that just going from 3 sparkplug firings back to the traditional 1 would cause this change. 

Anyway, once warmed up so that the choke and high idle factors are all taken out of play, that leaves only curb idle and idle mixture adjustments. So I think I'll just focus on those for now. Then I'll worry about the start up circuits in the amazing air-fuel mixture control mechanical/fluid/electrically driven analog computer also known as the Quadrajet. It really is an amazing device. 



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Posted: 10/19/17 6:08am Message 6 of 31
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PS - the trouble with making idle mixture adjustments is that when it's running it's virtually impossible to get to the screws with all the vacuum hoses and temp-vac switches sitting in front of carb. I'm working on making a tool that can thread through maze and then engage the oddball heads on the mixture screws. 


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Posted: 10/19/17 9:58am Message 7 of 31
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 Most parts houses will have a tool for adjusting the idle mixture screws. Get ya one of these....


It's flexible, and has the "D" shape on one end, and a rectangular shape on the other. It will fit most all later model quadrapukes. Fairly cheap, too.


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Re: q-jet tuning

Posted: 10/20/17 8:59am Message 8 of 31
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Vince Vette Good Morning,Quick question.What is the amount of vacuum do you have..It should be at 14 degrees mercury to a max of 18.You should have vacuum port behind carb to get max reading of vacuum.Let me know what you have now..

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Posted: 10/20/17 11:11am Message 9 of 31
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Vince Vette a correction on my email on vacuum,Should read

14 inches of vacuum not degrees..Sorry..........Sal C



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Posted: 10/20/17 11:19am Message 10 of 31
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Holding my thumb on the port for 30 seconds turns it a light purple color - that should be 13 inches Smile. Sorry, I couldn't help it. I'll have to dig up a gage somewhere to find out. 

I should preface all these questions with one caveat. My objective on this engine, which is the original L82 engine in the car with 90,000 miles, is to simply get it running acceptably to drive it places to get it to an inspection station first (been 13 years) and then some other shops to swap our the transmission for a 700/R4 and get the rear gears changed over to 3.33 or 3.55. After that and when the bank account moves back up the engine will be replaced with 383 stroker and I'll then at a very slow pace to a rebuild on the L82 myself. So mainly with my current engine work I just want to make sure I don't damage it between now and swapping it out. 



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