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Smog Pump

Posted: 10/1/08 9:53am Message 1 of 16
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Fayetteville, AR - USA
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Vette(s): 1976 Corvette L82 4sp - all original, current documented mileage is 9,532 miles; previous - 63 Conv 4 Spd Red/Blk; 64 Conv 327/300 4 spd with hardtop red/blk; 79 Coupe Auto T-Tops British Green; 79 Coupe 4 Spd T-Tops Hdrs Cam Bored & Stroked
I just installed a true dual exhaust system on my '76 L82.  This is a performance exhaust using magnaflow mufflers.  I purchased the kit from Corvette Central and it replaces everything from the manifold back (no cat anymore).  Amazingly it went on with no major problems and fit very well through the exhaust pipe holes in the central support.  The mufflers are marketed as "hidden" in design and actually are less exposed from the rear view then the OEM style.  The sound is good.  It is a thoaty but quite subdued unitl you push it and then they do wake up some.  I would say overall they would be great for those of us that want a little more umph in the sound without being loud inside the car with the windows up.
 
My question is what to do the the "smog pump".  Presently it is still on the car but the outlet is obvioulsy not connected any longer to the exhaust pipe since the new pipe does not allow for that connection.  I have been told that the simplest approach is to take the belt off the pump and just leave it idle on the car.  I'm looking for suggestions from the forum members who may have made this conversion and how they handled this situation.



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Smog Pump

Posted: 10/1/08 10:21am Message 2 of 16
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Aren't the outlet lines from the smog pump connected to the exhaust manifolds? 6 pipes go to 6 fittings in the manifolds. That system, AIR, should be pretty much still intact and operational even with the new dual exhaust.
Regardless, with such a low mile otherwise original Vette, I'd leave the pump mounted, WITH the belt on. Just for the original look.
 
I did remove the air pump from my black79 when I installed dual exhaust years ago, but I also added headers. One of these days I will return that one to stock, also.
mkapp78792008-10-01 10:25:29


Smog Pump

Posted: 10/1/08 12:35pm Message 3 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Corvette L82 4sp - all original, current documented mileage is 9,532 miles; previous - 63 Conv 4 Spd Red/Blk; 64 Conv 327/300 4 spd with hardtop red/blk; 79 Coupe Auto T-Tops British Green; 79 Coupe 4 Spd T-Tops Hdrs Cam Bored & Stroked
You are correct.  There are several lines (some the size of vacuum lines) that are still attached to various places.  I'd have to go back and look at each to see what's what.  But, there is approximately a 3/4" to 1" ID metal tube that ran down to and connected to the exhaust tube ahead of the cat and up close to the engine.  This is now just an open line not connected to anything. I assumed it is for exhaust gases coming from the smog pump.
 
All the other lines from / to the pump are still connected to their appropriated places. 
 
Any thoughts?



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Posted: 10/1/08 1:11pm Message 4 of 16
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I can't picture the open line you're talking about. I got my 78SA up on the lift right now so I'll go take a look at it.
I'm pretty sure it's the same setup.



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Posted: 10/1/08 2:07pm Message 5 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Corvette L82 4sp - all original, current documented mileage is 9,532 miles; previous - 63 Conv 4 Spd Red/Blk; 64 Conv 327/300 4 spd with hardtop red/blk; 79 Coupe Auto T-Tops British Green; 79 Coupe 4 Spd T-Tops Hdrs Cam Bored & Stroked
There is a hose that comes off the "diverter valve" on the A.I.R. pump and has a check valve in the line.  From the check valve a tube goes down to the passenger side exhaust pipe just below the exhaust manifold.  The tube connects to the exhaust pipe before the pipe makes its turn toward the rear of the car.  I beginning to believe this set up is unique to the 75 and 76 year cars.


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Posted: 10/1/08 5:35pm Message 6 of 16
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[QUOTE=mcgee0311]  I beginning to believe this set up is unique to the 75 and 76 year cars.[/QUOTE]
 
Probably so cause I don't see it on 78s or 79s.



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Posted: 10/1/08 6:04pm Message 7 of 16
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You can remove the smog pump and any tubing related and cap off the vacumm line, by removing the pump it will leave a cleaner apperance. 


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Posted: 10/2/08 9:27am Message 8 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Corvette L82 4sp - all original, current documented mileage is 9,532 miles; previous - 63 Conv 4 Spd Red/Blk; 64 Conv 327/300 4 spd with hardtop red/blk; 79 Coupe Auto T-Tops British Green; 79 Coupe 4 Spd T-Tops Hdrs Cam Bored & Stroked
The interesting thing in researching the pump is that it injects fresh air into both exhaust manifolds through small metal lines.  There is a line for each side and each main line splits into four lines that connect into each port on the exhaust manifold for that side.  If I take off the pump, I wouldn't have a clue what to do at the exhaust manifold to cap off the air injection holes on the manifold.  '75 and '76 being the first years for this smog stuff are kinda wierd.


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Posted: 10/3/08 8:27am Message 9 of 16
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Vette(s): 70 LT1 coupe, 69 350 HP coupe, 69 390HP 427 coupe, 71 LS5 convert, 85 coupe, 93 coupe
All the AIR system did was pump fresh air from the air cleaner into the exhaust to provide oxygen to finish burning the stuff left in the exhaust.  It doesn't affect the tune to remove everything and just plug the various holes.  Since so many people took them off and threw them away years ago, you probably want to hold onto everything you take off, or sell it to some lucky restorer.

Larry



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Posted: 10/6/08 3:28pm Message 10 of 16
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Vette(s): 1981 2-tone Claret. 4spd transmission, cloth interior, Gymkanna suspension, Glass T-Tops, A/C, Alloy Wheels, 28,000 original miles, prize-winning car in new condition.

When I removed the cat from my '81 I only added a test pipe where the cat was located. The next step was to disconnect the belt and then the removal of the smog pump because it is nothing more than an eyesore and hides the nice valve-covers. Part of the removal of the pump was also the elimination of copper plumbing that led from the exhaust manifolds.  When I disconnected the pipes from the exhaust manifolds, I found some nice brass caps that screwed right on and sealed the manifolds.

However, the best thing I did was last spring when I replaced the stock exhaust manifolds with Hooker headers and a completely new exhaust system configured with an x-pipe.
 
I hope this helps.
Jim



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