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also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/18/16 10:36am Message 1 of 14
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Vette(s): 1979 L82 Manual
1979 L 82 Light Beige with Light beige interior (leather).  This is how it came from the factory.  However, my trim tag says:

"Trim 59C       59L  Paint"     This shows it was cloth, not leather, and I can't find the code 59L anywhere for the paint.  If I am reading the options chart correctly, Chevrolet did not even offer the Lt Beige w/ Lt Beige Leather Trim (I do understand that ANY option was available by special order though).

The date code is I03


Does anyone have any ideas?  I have most paperwork, is there somewhere else I should look?

I don't know if it matters but it is also 4 speed manual and L-82

Thanks!



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Re: also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/18/16 3:24pm Message 2 of 14
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According to the BLACK BOOK, the color options AND the leather and cloth in beige were available in 1979. 59 lt beige had 2,951 painted. Lt beige cloth had 8,818 and lt beige leather had 9,181. Base cars were all available in leather or cloth. All quantities are understated by about 7% because of production longer run. Hope this helps.


Re: also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/18/16 6:47pm Message 3 of 14
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Thanks, but mostly interested in the tag not matching.  I have the build stats, but thanks for replying.  I can't find the paint code 59L and I am 100% positive it came as leather interior, so the 59C trim code is incorrect.  Just wondering if i may be missing something. I mentioned the codes not being "available" or "recommended" by Chevrolet to highlight the unique situation to start with...that being that it was a "special order".


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Posted: 10/18/16 7:26pm Message 4 of 14
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59L is for 'Frost Beige" paint. The "L" has been discussed as being either for lacquer paint, or, more likely for the distinction of upper/lower body colors on the two toned cars. When the cars were a solid color, the trim tags would read the code with an "L", for lower color. On the two toned cars, the trim tag would have a "u" for the upper color code, and either an "M", or an "L" for the lower paint code.This started with either the '73 or '74 model year.

Code 59C is for Light Doeskin, cloth seats....which is what the car was originally built with, regardless of what it has in it now. The seat material could have been changed anytime after the car was assembled.


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Re: also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/18/16 7:38pm Message 5 of 14
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Thanks for the heads up on the paint code.  I appreciate the info.  As for cloth seats, the car was custom ordered, original owner said he ordered leather and car was delivered with leather.  I am looking for build sheets in his mounds of paperwork, he swears the car has never had cloth seats.  I will research his stuff more closely.


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Posted: 10/18/16 8:01pm Message 6 of 14
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Not saying it wasn't ordered like that, but that it was originally assembled with cloth seats. If the dealer that ordered it had enough pull with GM, they could have had the seats swapped out at the assy plant, but it's more likely the dealer did the swap. It's also possible the trim tag was mis-stamped....not likely, but possible. On the '79 cars, the trim tag was attached to the body BEFORE paint, so once the body got to the interior install line, the workers would see the tag, and the build sheet, and install whatever interior was called out for.
It would make a great story to find out exactly what took place on the car...it is intriguing. Thumbs Up



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Re: also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/21/16 9:16pm Message 7 of 14
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Adams' Apple said: On the two toned cars, the trim tag would have a "u" for the upper color code, and either an "M", or an "L" for the lower paint code.This started with either the '73 or '74 model year.



I thought two tone started w/ the '78 models w/ the Pace car and the Silver anniversary.



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Posted: 10/22/16 7:01am Message 8 of 14
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On Corvette, yes, but the trim codes "U" & "L" were used on other GM cars too....Thumbs Up


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Re: also having trouble with trim tag info

Posted: 10/22/16 2:05pm Message 9 of 14
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How did the trim codes denote two tone prior to that?


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Posted: 10/22/16 6:32pm Message 10 of 14
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There were none for Corvettes before that(if you exclude the cove colors on the solid axle cars), but GM was getting ready for it, plus they were consolidating data for the computer age(ie: punch cards!)


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