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And I ACTUALLY thought it couldn't be worse

Posted: 3/20/09 4:36pm Message 1 of 18
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Westlake, LA - USA
Joined: 3/8/2009
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Vette(s): 1975 Stingray
Well, I really was encouraged by everyone cheering me on.....BUT the worst is realized. It cannot be fixed. There just is no way to recover it from the SALT WATER damage. Yes, the answer has been found. I have to say this much, it was cleaned up nicely, and it was pouring when we picked it up, but GEEZ I am a MORON anyway. I asked all the questions, brought TWO, not one, but TWO mechanics with me. Hubby was one, figured he'd fall in love and I'd need a second opinion. (laughing). The fluids were all changed, etc...... so a nice effort to conceal the fact that it was in the water for goodness knows how long. (Pulling out hand fulls of hair).
 
We took the car to our paint and body fellow, he looked at it and said, "hmmmm, you sure this car wasn't under water?" First words.... then came the dreaded...." there's just no way... looks like salt water damage". And for a final step into the grave...... took it to Jude Kilchrist.....restores cars, does a beautiful job....and he says in the first 1/2 second of looking at it....."This car has been in salt water". AAAACCCKKKKK!!!!!!! And then he says, it would never be safe to drive, it's gone. I wouldn't do it even if you asked me, not for any money, not for anything. Wow. That drove it home.  So now I'm the lucky owner of a flood damaged, worthless, 75 vette. I'm sicker than I've been in a long time.



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And I ACTUALLY thought it couldn't be worse

Posted: 3/20/09 5:17pm Message 2 of 18
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Holland Patent, NY - USA
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Vette(s): #1 *1980 White, Red interior 14,000 mile #2 *1980 Red, Oyster interior 93,000 miles Resto project car, rebuilt to 383 stroker
Is there any way to go back after the seller for information withheld?Ouch



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Posted: 3/20/09 5:30pm Message 3 of 18
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Bladenboro, NC - USA
Joined: 1/22/2006
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Vette(s): 1972 conv., sunfire yellow, blk interior, blk vinyl and convertible top. Off frame restoration with American Speed 383 stroker engine producing 500hp plus a 200hp NOS system. MSD ignition. Hooker super competition headers with chambered exhaust.
[QUOTE=ebo]Is there any way to go back after the seller for information withheld?Ouch[/QUOTE]

That's my first question, who did you buy the car from, an individual, dealer or maybe off ebay? Does the car have a salvage title? Was the car titled to the seller, or was it an "open" title?



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Posted: 3/20/09 5:41pm Message 4 of 18
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Westlake, LA - USA
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It was bought from an individual. There is a little light at the end of this tunnel though.....I'm understanding that in 2005, Louisiana enacted a law that forbids a sale of a flooded vehicle without full disclosure by the seller in writing, detailing the damage and signed by both buyer and seller. There was no such disclosure.




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Posted: 3/20/09 5:41pm Message 5 of 18
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Kendall Park, NJ - USA
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Vette(s): 1981 - 59 Beige over Cinnebar leather. Edlebrock top end, 2200 stall w/shift kit, 3:55s, Mufflex maniback exhaust, nice stereo, 16 in AREs w/BFGs
If the seller knew about this, its called theft by deception. Talk to your DA.  I also can just about guarentee you will the full amt + damages in small claims court.
 
What Im confused with is salt water damage is a somewhat easy spot...



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Posted: 3/20/09 5:46pm Message 6 of 18
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It was cleaned up, bulbs changed, corroded connectors cut off under dash..... this car was not bought in running condition. We knew it needed repairs, a little interior stuff, new paint, a little surface rust , a new cam, BUT nothing like what was revealed when we started removing interior we wanted to change to new.




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Posted: 3/20/09 6:08pm Message 7 of 18
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Irving, TX - USA
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Vette(s): #1 -1969 Corvette Coupe Riverside Gold, black interior,MN,A/C,350/350,PS,PB,window cranks. #2 -2000 C5, black/black, 6 sp, Bose system & lots of buttons.
OMG! Shocked   That's awful!  I would go after the individual that sold the car to you......what a dirt bag that person is.AngryAngryDeadCensored  That person is just WRONG and should not get away with that.AngryCensored  Get your money back and try for another one..........don't give up because of one bad apple.  Hang in there and keep us informed of the situation.Wink


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Posted: 3/20/09 6:13pm Message 8 of 18
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Newport, MI - USA
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Vette(s): 1980 L-48 still in the middle of a frame-off.
I would start photographing every square inch of that car and document everything including conversations with you, the seller, and any witnesses.   Photographs speak volumes in court.



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Posted: 3/20/09 6:44pm Message 9 of 18
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Cramerton, NC - USA
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
We all feel your disappointment and anger at the injustice done to you.  Unfortunately there is slime everywhere and you just dealt with one.  I hope after you recover your $$ and when this thing is behind you that you will realize your dream of your own C3.   There are lots of good cars out there needing a good home, I hope you find the one for you.  We also hope you will remain a member of our C3VR family.
 
Id give the seller a chance to make it right before seeking legal relief.  As mentioned, take lots of pictures and document all conversations with your mechanics and the restoration shop.  You may be able to have a lawyer contact the seller by letter threatening a lawsuit.  Sometimes just the letter is enough to get things moving.  If it comes to court action, you may be able to file a claim in "small claims" court without a lawyer and present your case to the judge.
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Posted: 3/20/09 7:50pm Message 10 of 18
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Bladenboro, NC - USA
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Vette(s): 1972 conv., sunfire yellow, blk interior, blk vinyl and convertible top. Off frame restoration with American Speed 383 stroker engine producing 500hp plus a 200hp NOS system. MSD ignition. Hooker super competition headers with chambered exhaust.
Here's the La. law:

    La. R.S. 32:774.2 (2005)

    § 32:774.2. Sale of used water-damaged vehicles

    A. No used motor vehicle dealer, nor any person or entity, shall sell, transfer, or convey any used motor vehicle to any person without notifying the buyer or receiver of the vehicle in writing of the extent of any water damage from flooding which occurred to the vehicle prior to the transaction.

    B. If a sale, transfer, or conveyance of a used motor vehicle occurs in violation of Subsection A, the person receiving ownership and title to the vehicle who is not otherwise aware of the damage at the time of the transaction may bring an action to set aside the transaction within one year from the date of the transaction and receive all monies or other property given as consideration for the vehicle less a reasonable assessment for miles driven.

Problematically, there is no interpretation of this law to tell us whether it applies a strict liability or a knowledge standard. In other words, if you are a seller who has no idea the vehicle had water damage, are you liable for the transaction even though you acted honestly and in good faith? The law also doesn’t define “water damage”, so what amount of water and which part of the vehicle exposed constitutes “water damage”?





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