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Appraisals?

Posted: 10/9/12 9:19pm Message 1 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
So have any of you ever had your car professionally appraised?  I'm debating having mine done.  When I was getting my car insured in August I asked my agent how to get it insured for more than what it books out at.  His answer was simple: just get it professionally appraised and keep it on file.  Then if it's stolen or totaled we can fall back on the appraisal.  Just looking for others' advice/experience/opinions.  I called two of the three outfits he gave me today, one was a complete flake and the other seemed OK but it was $150, a bit more than I anticipated.  But it sounds like it would be worth it?  Will a '76 appraise appreciably higher than book value?  Mine has decent paint, decent interior and good mechanical, but, hey, it's a '76.  






 

1976 Silver/Firethorn.  L48, 4spd.  Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
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Re: Appraisals?

Posted: 10/10/12 3:19am Message 2 of 16
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Vette(s): black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion
Ive never had an appraisal done but if you are concerned about what your insurance will pay in case of a total loss, you may want to consider collector car insurance.   If you have never priced collector car insurance you may be surprised at how inexpensive it is and YOU specify the value your want your car insured for, within reason of course. I'm  paying much less than my regular insurance company was charging me.  I have Hagerty and am pleaed with their service and prices, but have never had to file a claim with them and hope I never do.  My car can't be a daily driver, you must have another vehicle which is your DD,  and the car  must be kept in a locked garage at night and that's pretty much it.  There is no mileage restriction.  Other companies may have different restrictions and Im pretty sure others will chime in here with their experiences, many here have collector car insurance.

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Posted: 10/10/12 5:26am Message 3 of 16
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Vette(s): 1975 Corvette 383 stroker w/Patriot 190 heads, Eagle stroker kit, Comp 279TH7 cam, DUI distributor, Edelbrock 7116 intake, Edelbrock 1806 carb, Hedman Hedders, TH400 w/TCI Breakaway 2400 stall, Transgo 1-2 shift kit.
Crossfire has it right; I'm with Hagerty here in Canada and it's the same restrictions. My '75 apprasial came in at $22,500 CDN + txs and that is what it's insurred for. It costs me $258 per year for full coverage insurance with a $100 dedutable.


 
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Posted: 10/10/12 6:14am Message 4 of 16
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Vette(s): 1978 Black with Viking mural painted under hood AM/FM/CB radio, T-top and a 2013 Cyber Gray Grand Sport Coupe, 2LT for my daily driver
I too have Hagerty's (which I believe is now owned by Allstate).  When I contacted them, we discussed the value.  Hagerty's recognizes the value of the chrome I added and NOT justthe year of car it is.  We agreed on a value of $25,000.  My preminum is a lot less than the regular Allstate.  I did not need an appraisal either.


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Posted: 10/10/12 6:26am Message 5 of 16
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Duncanville, TX - USA
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Vette(s): #1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas
A "true" appraisal will cost some $$$, BUT...it will be indisputable. You need to find someone familiar with Corvettes, tho, as "regular appraisers will not have the knowledge to properly value the car. Any optional equipment, additions, deletions, etc, can alter to true value of the vehicle, and that needs to be taken into consideration from a Corvette point of view. A guy that does mostly Caprices, an Mustang appraisals is not going to be knowledgeable enough to determine the value of a classic Corvette.
I have Heacock collector insurance on both on my Corvettes. Stated value on both, and I stated the value. I can change the value of either car anytime I want, and they have never asked for any new pics to verify. I did have to provide 4 pics of each when I first got the insurance, just so they would have something on file showing the vehicle actually existed.



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Re: Appraisals?

Posted: 10/10/12 6:44pm Message 6 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
Thanks for the input, guys.  I have looked into collector car insurance several times in the past.  But my broker has always quoted me  a collector option from my regular company (right now that's Safeco).  And those options always have had severe restrictions such as a 1K miles/year limit and no parking in public parking lots.  Those would never work for me.  So I just went with the regular option and used their book value.  It's pretty affordable (Vette adds only about $300/year to our regular insurance) but I feel that I'm under-insured.  

I think I'll be calling our broker to see if he can help me out with an outfit like Haggerty.  Maybe he can since he's a broker, not an agent for a specific company.  If not, I might start making some calls on my own.  

So if I'm hearing you guys right, a good recommendation is to find a company that will insure it on my stated value and possibly skip the whole appraisal thing??  




 

1976 Silver/Firethorn.  L48, 4spd.  Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Posted: 10/10/12 6:45pm Message 7 of 16
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Vette(s): 1974 White 350 Corvette, TH400 Automatic 1972 Tangerine /Go Mango Convertible 383 Stroker, 2004r Automatic
I also have hagerty Insurance on both my corvettes. When I bought each one I called to add them to my policy and was ask what the value I wanted them insured was. As Joel said I also had to supply them with the 4 pics of each. Now that the 72 is done I called last week to change the stated value from 20k to 35k. They required new pics and receipts from all the work and parts. I have never filed a claim but those I know that have them said things went well.
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Posted: 10/10/12 7:00pm Message 8 of 16
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Vette(s): 1975 Corvette 383 stroker w/Patriot 190 heads, Eagle stroker kit, Comp 279TH7 cam, DUI distributor, Edelbrock 7116 intake, Edelbrock 1806 carb, Hedman Hedders, TH400 w/TCI Breakaway 2400 stall, Transgo 1-2 shift kit.
Just to talk about the appraisal aspect...here in Ontario from what I've been able to gather it is impossible to get collector car insurance without an appraisal. Even Hagerty wanted an appraisal. Also, I could not get the car plated without an appraisal form from the Ontario government filled out by a licensed appraiser. That cost me $50. This is due to the car being over 20 years old and no longer in the black book. This is so that the government gets their maximum tax money.  

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Posted: 10/10/12 7:28pm Message 9 of 16
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Burke, VT - USA
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SOLD - "The Toy" - '70 Convertible
SOLD - "The Beast" - '90 ZR-1 (#682)
SOLD - "Betty" - '28 Ford Model A Tudor
SOLD - "BLKBRRD" - '78 Pontiac Trans Am
"BLUBYU" - '04 Coupe
To get collector policies on "The Fleet" through my insurance company (American Family) I was required to get an official appraisal done on each car and also to send 4 pictures of each car (front, back and both sides).  The policies are an agreed value based on the appraised value and have no mileage or usage restrictions.
 
Currently having some difficulty getting the Model A covered as the underwriters want an appraisal and pictures of both the interior and exterior of a road worthy car.  The appraisal won't happen anytime soon and pictures will have to wait until the Corvettes are off to winter storage so I have room in the garage to manuver it away from the back corner.  The road worthy piece of the puzzle won't happen until next spring at the earliest so I'm screwed on getting a collector policy at the moment, at least through AFI.  My agent is working all the angles she can to at least somehow get the car covered for storage.
 
Check with a local Corvette parts place or a local Corvette club to see if they can refer you to an appraiser.  The fellow I contacted was a referral from Corvette Specialties and because I had three cars to be appraised he came out to "The Ranch" and actually gave me a bit of a "group" discount.



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Re: Appraisals?

Posted: 10/11/12 5:19am Message 10 of 16
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Vette(s): 1972 conv, 4-speed, 350, 200hp, numbers match, rally wheels, war bonnett yellow w/white top. good condition, nice driver.
Mine are through Nationwide. They wanted appraisals also. Did the pictures and such on them, they wanted them in person at the dealership/office, took more pictures, added their own appraisal, and insured them for it. They have ALL coverage on ALL my assets. I got a VERY good deal, NOBODY has come close to beating it. Been using the same office since I was 16, no claims, and many discounts.Big smile


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