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Re: Attempting to Paint / Detail Without Removing Engine

Posted: 9/13/15 7:57pm Message 11 of 15
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As others have said take your time and be very detailed with your cleaning. The better the prep the nicer the finish will be. I use Por 15 all the time. I go to Ace hardware and I buy the CHEAP wooden handle 1/2" & 1" wide brushes. Make sure you get the ones that have the hair brush and not a vinyl brush. The wider ones seem to loose the hair quicker and then it ends up in your paint. The Por 15 has been very good for me but all my engines have been out and stripped to bare metal. As mentioned above thin coats and you'll probably need 3 coats although if any old paint is left you may get away with 2 coats. I have not used the metal prep they recommend. I just completed doing my dart undercarriage in their 2 part expoxy white. I find all the Por products harder to work with then regular paint but the results are very good. It will run if its to heavy so again thin coats. There orange is very glossy and I think it looks excellent. You need to wait about 2 hours between coats. Remember its an epoxy paint so it will make it a little harder down the road to get some bolts out. The only problem I see you may run into is the dreaded "now I have to make something else look better. That leads to the next thing, then the next thing after that and before you know it you are doing the resto!! lol
BTW, welcome to C3VR.
Best of luck and if I can be of any help just yell.
Rodney 


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Re: Attempting to Paint / Detail Without Removing Engine

Posted: 9/14/15 9:49am Message 12 of 15
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Freeze plugs are installed in the engines when they are assembled, not at the vehicle assy plant...that's why there is no mention of them in the assy manual. Thumbs Up 
Thumbs UpDon't poke too hard at it with a screwdriver, or anything sharp, trying to clean the funk out of it. If it is marginal, you'll wind up with another dadgum leak to fix! Angry Soak it down with your cleaner(s), and use a paint stick, or something similar to clean the doo-doo out of it.
Once you have everything as clean as you can get it, make sure you rinse ALL of the cleaners off really well. It doesn't take much leftover cleaning agent to ruin the paint, or make it not stick.

You do realize, don't you Jason, that you are climbing down into a hole you may never crawl back out of? The "while I'm here" disease can get you before ya know it!  The rest(most) of us have been there, done that, and got the back-aches(and empty wallets) to prove it....LOL



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Re: Attempting to Paint / Detail Without Removing Engine

Posted: 9/14/15 8:27pm Message 13 of 15
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rod7515 said: As others have said take your time and be very detailed with your cleaning. The better the prep the nicer the finish will be. I use Por 15 all the time. I go to Ace hardware and I buy the CHEAP wooden handle 1/2" & 1" wide brushes. Make sure you get the ones that have the hair brush and not a vinyl brush. The wider ones seem to loose the hair quicker and then it ends up in your paint. The Por 15 has been very good for me but all my engines have been out and stripped to bare metal. As mentioned above thin coats and you'll probably need 3 coats although if any old paint is left you may get away with 2 coats. I have not used the metal prep they recommend. I just completed doing my dart undercarriage in their 2 part expoxy white. I find all the Por products harder to work with then regular paint but the results are very good. It will run if its to heavy so again thin coats. There orange is very glossy and I think it looks excellent. You need to wait about 2 hours between coats. Remember its an epoxy paint so it will make it a little harder down the road to get some bolts out. The only problem I see you may run into is the dreaded "now I have to make something else look better. That leads to the next thing, then the next thing after that and before you know it you are doing the resto!! lol
BTW, welcome to C3VR.
Best of luck and if I can be of any help just yell.
Rodney 






Thanks, Rod! Great tips with the brushes and how to handle the Por 15 properly! I've been on this forum for maybe a year now and I have to say the guys here are incredible. Some really go above and beyond to give me the insight, and in turn the courage, I need to tackle various projects on my vette. As a newbie I Couldn't be happier! Jason D.


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Re: Attempting to Paint / Detail Without Removing Engine

Posted: 9/14/15 8:33pm Message 14 of 15
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Adams' Apple said: Freeze plugs are installed in the engines when they are assembled, not at the vehicle assy plant...that's why there is no mention of them in the assy manual. Thumbs Up 
Thumbs UpDon't poke too hard at it with a screwdriver, or anything sharp, trying to clean the funk out of it. If it is marginal, you'll wind up with another dadgum leak to fix! Angry Soak it down with your cleaner(s), and use a paint stick, or something similar to clean the doo-doo out of it.
Once you have everything as clean as you can get it, make sure you rinse ALL of the cleaners off really well. It doesn't take much leftover cleaning agent to ruin the paint, or make it not stick.

You do realize, don't you Jason, that you are climbing down into a hole you may never crawl back out of? The "while I'm here" disease can get you before ya know it!  The rest(most) of us have been there, done that, and got the back-aches(and empty wallets) to prove it....LOL



Thanks for the heads up on the freeze plug! I was originally poking around in there with a tiny flat head screw driver and decided to stop and post about it instead. Last thing I need is another leak!! And you hit the nail on the head! The "while I'm here" bug bit me hard! It's such an easy trap to fall into, but I love working on her so I don't mind too much. My wife is another story lol I have given myself a November deadline when it's time to put her away until spring. That's my stopping point. What I'm undertaking now has to be done by then! Fingers crossed :)


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Re: Attempting to Paint / Detail Without Removing Engine

Posted: 9/21/15 5:15pm Message 15 of 15
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Hey Guys!

Just a quick update.  Got the engine as clean as I could.  Used Purple power and oven cleaner and tools to scrape grime from tight spots. 

I think the progress is coming along nicely.  On my second coat.  Going to let it sit and set for a few days before I do a final.  I now have the cleanest freeze plug in the Midwest!  :)

This is after a first coat!





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