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engine makeover

Posted: 12/6/07 7:29pm Message 1 of 15
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During the winter down time i'm going to be painting the engine block and detailing the engine bay on my 78.  The engine is not greasy but oily from failed gaskets. I'm taking the externals down to about long-block status and replacing all gaskets (except head) and checking everything out in the process (Joel and everybody, you'll have to stay with me on this one). I am also removing the radiator and fan/shroud. The hood is already off and the car is 18" up on stands. I am not planning on pulling the engine (as I should) but i'll try to work aound everything.Confused
 
Shoot Joel, if you can get an NCRS with no body-off I should be able to work around a long blockWink
 
Does anyone have ideas about solvents and cleaners that work great de-oiling metal surfaces? I would like to stay away from the nasty stuff and remain "green" but I think it's impossible to do and still get the surface very-very clean.
 
I sure don't want that hi temp paint to fail after all the workAngry.....Rich



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engine makeover

Posted: 12/6/07 8:02pm Message 2 of 15
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Vette(s): '68 Black Conv. Matching 327/300 4 Spd. P/S, P/B, P/W, Tele, A/C
Rich,
 
I'm a big fan of Castrol Super Clean.  Simple Green works pretty good too.  Stuff like Brakekleen is too strong  on painted surfaces & nasty on fiberglass.
 
After the block is clean, use some mineral spirits or alcohol in a spray bottle to clean the block.  Follow that with a scuffing pad to give the new paint some tooth to adhere to, and then clean the block with Prep-Sol on  a lint-free rag before you paint.
 
Good luck,
 
Anthony



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Posted: 12/6/07 9:34pm Message 3 of 15
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 4-spd, Mahogany Metalic exterior, Buckskin interior 350ci/350hp, 3rd owner, fiberglass spring, 255/50-16's Torq-Thrust II
I am with you on using less toxic stuff. I have found Simplegreen works great. Wink


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Posted: 12/6/07 9:47pm Message 4 of 15
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PurplePower was recommended to me by StingrayJim when I was working on cleaning up "BIGBRRD"s engine.  IMO it beat SimpleGreen by 1000%.  A spray bath with laquer thinner afterwards really cleaned it up, but you wouldn't want to do that with the engine in the car.


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Posted: 12/6/07 10:09pm Message 5 of 15
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I would suggest doing all of the cleaning first, before disassembling anything, such as pulling the intake off. That will keep all the nasty stuff outside of the engine.
I have used a product called Engine "Gunk" to clean engines. Don't know how environmentally friendly it is, but it works amazingly well, with little elbow grease.
Soak the engine...all of it...head to toe, and use a brush for the hard to get spots, such as down in the valleys of the intake. Let the cleaner do it's job, then hose off with water, and blow dry.
When I had the engine out of the '74, it was nasty. Gunk cleaned it well. All I did after that was squirt the color on it, and I was done. That was in 1998...the engine still looks fresh today.

Cleaning/detailing with the engine in the car takes a lot more patience, and care. Don't want to splash stuff on the paint that will discolor, or otherwise damage it. Be careful of all of th e electrical stuff...make sure it is well protected.


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engine makeover

Posted: 12/7/07 5:15am Message 6 of 15
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I'm with Joel, engine gunk works well, but I am not sure how friendly it is!


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Posted: 12/7/07 8:19am Message 7 of 15
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Try and find some industrial citrus cleaner,works so well my Airline has discontinued using any solvents. I brought some home in a spray bottle for my engine bay and it worked wonders,even over spray on the paint won't hurt.If you want the name of what we use I will get it tonight at work and post.


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Posted: 12/7/07 8:32am Message 8 of 15
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I don't know if this is what Todd's talking about, but when I was in the military we used a citrus cleaner called Citra Clean. (May have been one word, Citraclean.) It worked wonders on greasy heavy equipment, and in doing a google search this morning, it is also environmentally friendly.


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Posted: 12/7/07 8:53am Message 9 of 15
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[QUOTE=Ten15]...Simple Green works pretty good too....[/QUOTE]
 
Simple Green, a power washer, and a little time and effort.
 
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Posted: 12/7/07 2:26pm Message 10 of 15
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Vette(s): 71 Colonnade Hardtop Coupe Torch Red with black interior originally L48 built to push around 360hp
[QUOTE=gurtz]I'm with Joel, engine gunk works well, but I am not sure how friendly it is![/QUOTE]
 
10-4 on the Gunk Engine Bright. I've used it a bunch. Spray on hose off.



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