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Is this surface Rust?

Posted: 10/17/07 7:31am Message 1 of 22
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Hi guys,
I'm just purchasing my first classic vette, and I asked for some pictures of the birdcage, frame, and body mounts to check for rust.  I don't have an experts eye, so what do you guys think?  He is asking around $6500 and everyting is origional with matching numbers.  1976 L82 engine/hydamatic.  The engine runs strong and the transmission seems to work well.
 
 
 
 
 



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Is this surface Rust?

Posted: 10/17/07 7:33am Message 2 of 22
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Sorry i forgot to mention that there are 69,000 miles on the origional L82 engine.  Thanks!


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Posted: 10/17/07 8:04am Message 3 of 22
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It's pretty difficult to tell from pictures; you really need to use your trusted mechanic, Vette or not, to get it up in the air and check it out. I'd look at the frame front to back; suspension, bushings, steering, brakes, tires, ujoints, and etc...... There are a few check lists out there that you can use so you don't miss too much.
 
Depending on what it needs to make it safe, and your ability to get the work completed all has an effect on what it's worth. It's priced at a good starting point though.
 
Good luck and welcome - just remember, it's so hard to buy with your head instead of your heart. (been there and done that a few times)
 
 
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Posted: 10/17/07 10:08am Message 4 of 22
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I agree with Willis76.  Have a good  mechanic look it over.  I'm not an NCRS judge by any stretch, but there's an awful lot of overspray  in those pics; leads me to believe the car had a cheap repaint at some time.  Also for "all original", those don't even resemble GM wheels Confused


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Posted: 10/17/07 11:21am Message 5 of 22
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I've got my '76 up on my lift right now (replacing T-arms, U-joints, etc.) and it doesn't have anyware near  the rust that is shown in your pics.  Granted,  mine is a west coast car, so that amount of rust on that car may be normal for your area.  Thats just my observation for whats it's worth !!


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Posted: 10/17/07 11:56am Message 6 of 22
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Have the kick panels pulled and look at the mounts in that area. That seems to be one of the problem areas from debri and water build up. Being that it looks like a fairly new paint job I would have someone look real close around the door hinge area. This another rust problem area. May require some probing looking for soft spots.

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Posted: 10/17/07 2:47pm Message 7 of 22
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First, good luck on finding your dream vette!

Second, that looks like a lot of rust, but that can be pretty common on older cars that were driven often in wet conditions, or where the roads are salted in the winter.   

I agree with everyone above; you really need to have someone check it out to make sure that it is only surface rust, and that you aren't looking into some serious repair problems down the road.

In photo #4 it appears to be more than just surface rust. Keep in mind that if it's really bad on the frame, you're looking at some expensive work to take care of that before it causes serious damage. (If it hasn't already.) From that photo alone I would guess that the rest of the car looks like that underneath.

Now having said that' the price doesn't sound too bad, but maybe you can get him down some because of the rust repair. The rust can be taken care of a little bit at a time, especially this time of year when the car should go into storage. I would make sure that it is numbers matching though. Again, having someone look at it in person would be the safest thing to do. Photos can hide a lot.

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Posted: 10/17/07 3:12pm Message 8 of 22
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Thanks everybody for your quick response.  So I obviously am now going to take it to a near-by garage with a lift to get all the rust checked out.  He told me it was nothing but surface rust, but It will be worth getting a different mechanic's opinion.
 
Personally, I would be happy with a car with matching numbers on the engine and the trany, and non-origional tires would not bother me.
 
Hopefully the mechanic finds minimal mechanical issues with the car, so I could focus on the rear bumper cover/interior.
 
Thanks again!



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Posted: 10/17/07 3:14pm Message 9 of 22
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Ditto on all of the above. It is a great investment to have a Vette mechanic or expert check the car out. There are so many hidden problems that can cost a lot of money and time. $6500.00 isn't bad if the engine and tranny match the VIN and the frame and birdcage are solid. Paint and body work are very expensive on these cars. What you don't want to do is pay to much at the start and then invest so much in car repairs that you will never recover your capital. These rubber bumper cars are only worth so much even in pristine condition. Do your homework and consult with the experts here.

Best of luck with your search,

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Posted: 10/17/07 4:27pm Message 10 of 22
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Looks pretty fair to me for a 31 year old car.

What little I can view is rusty around the rear brake frame area but not bad.I agree with the others about taking it to have checked out by a trustworthy mechanic if you need help. Likewise a good body shop can tell you wonders about the bodywork and the frame.

Next drive the thang, Fast, slow, curves, forwards backwards etc. Check all the flluid levels, lights gauges, etc. Note what works and what doesn't. They are leverage points for your bargaining power.

Good luck in your hunt, and if ya need some help just keep asking and posting those pictures!

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