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The Winters Nap

Posted: 10/1/09 6:48pm Message 1 of 18
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Morganville, NJ - USA
Joined: 1/25/2009
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Vette(s): 1971 350 270 hp roadster millivanilli red, black interior, white rag top, white hard top, I've had it 18 years and intend on giving it to my son for his 25th birthday(another 18 years from now)
To the Gang,
   I know a few of you all run your vette's all year round as I try to do.Lets face it life gets in the way and you can't always get to go out on the nice weekend that is coming up,or plans get changed due to unforseen happening with the family.So due to my marine experience,I'd like to give a few pointers to make the start up for the month or two your vette might sit a little more enjoyable(if there is such a thing!!)First things first,Fuel protection. todays fuel can go bad in as little as 30 days, (yes 30 days) alcohol plays a big part in this problem. I have personally found from past experience that topping the tank off is not the way to go. I've heard all the reasons and supposed facts and they just don't cut it in the real world. I highly recommened addind fuel stablizer and water absorping additives such as Startron (a marine fuel aditive) they do work.Also only keeping 4-5 gallons of fuel in the tank.Reason being if it does go bad, you don't have a lot to get rid of. I find it is also easier to get to the gas station to get fresh fuel to mix with the older fuel. Make sure you car has a good coat of wax befor you put the cover on it .the pores in the paint will atract dirt and smog from the air and make spring clean up that much more of a task.Engine oil should be changed too.  The acid in the oil can start rust inside the oil pan and from pin hole leaks.Also running the engine at 1500 RPM and running some marval mystry oil down the carb will give valves and piston a good fogging for a quick start up in the spring as well as losing ring carbon deposits Fan belts will also benifit from a little candel wax rubbed on them with the engine running to keep them dry rotting (keeps the noisey one quiet too) But cars are made to be driven and if you can get a nice day for a ride I say go for it. but most of all, keep the fuel fresh as possible, it will always be your biggest storage problem.
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                                                                                        Bill



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The Winters Nap

Posted: 10/1/09 7:02pm Message 2 of 18
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA
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Vette(s): 1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. Pace Car is in the hands of a new caretaker.
Thanks for the info, but I don't even want to think about putting her away yet. Winter is just too too long. I'll wait till they start dumping  that white crap ( the crap in the trucks) on the roads then I'll come back and read this again. Looks like good information.




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Posted: 10/1/09 7:25pm Message 3 of 18
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Wichita, KS - USA
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Vette(s): 2005 Daytona Sunset Orange Metallic Coupe --------------------- Sold 1974 T-top, 4 spd to BillKS
Quite a bit has been written about storage of our cars.   Here is an article that is pretty detailed that can also be referenced:  http://corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/care/storage.html
 
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The Winters Nap

Posted: 10/1/09 9:02pm Message 4 of 18
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Oak Creek, WI - USA
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Vette(s): 1981 Great White Shark. Red Interior, 350/190 hp. PS, PB (SS), A/C CC, T-Tops. Served three years in Active Duty Army, then Retired Air Force after 34 years! Badger State Vettes Car Club. 175,000 Original miles!! Now own a 1998 C-5!
My 81 goes in for a 6 month nap the 1st of November.  "miles to go before I sleep..."


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Posted: 10/2/09 5:08am Message 5 of 18
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Eagan, MN - USA
Joined: 6/18/2007
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Vette(s): Gone, but not forgotten: 1974 Coupe Red, matching numbers, Black Interior, L-48 w/ 4 speed; The “Admiral”, also gone and never to be forgotten. 1994 Admiral Blue LT-1 coupe, Black Interior Automatic
Bill:
 
I agree with everything you say...except the fuel tank. I prefer to store my Corvette with the tank full with fuel with no ethanol added plus a bottle of fuel stabilizer. The Minnesota street rod association is kind enough to provide a list of stations that sell this grade of fuel. You pay a premium price for it, but I think it is worth it. Keeping the tank full prevents moisture condensation in the tank which can corrode the inside of the fuel tank. I also bump the tire pressure up about 5 psi higher than normal. One last point, my baby is stored in an unheated pole barn with a dirt floor. Even though is can get really colod here in Minnesota, the humidity in the winter is really pretty low. Humidity is the real enemy here. I prefer dirt to concrete because moisture leaches out of concrete and I would bet that the pH of the water vapor is acidic. I also remove the battery and store it in my garage at home. Cold weather storage will help preserve the battery. There have been many threads posted here over the years regarding car storage and there are many opinions about storing cars. These have always worked for me. If I lived in texas, I could drive my Corvette year 'round.....That would be sweet!
 
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Posted: 10/2/09 5:16am Message 6 of 18
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Dorr, MI - USA
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Vette(s): 71 Colonnade Hardtop Coupe Torch Red with black interior originally L48 built to push around 360hp
Thanks Bill. I have always heard keeping the tank full in storage is the rule. However what you say seems to make more sense. What is the advantage of filling the tank to the max? What I heard was less surface for rust to form. I keep mine in a dry heated garage, so not much worry about moisture.


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Posted: 10/2/09 6:30am Message 7 of 18
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Morganville, NJ - USA
Joined: 1/25/2009
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Vette(s): 1971 350 270 hp roadster millivanilli red, black interior, white rag top, white hard top, I've had it 18 years and intend on giving it to my son for his 25th birthday(another 18 years from now)
To all that are concerned with not topping off the tank, there is a big catch 22 on this issue,meaning,if you fill the tank with alcohol type fuel, you have a 80% chance of the fuel going bad even with aditives. If you can get fuel with NO alcohol you have a 30% chance of it going bad. I like those odds alot better, but it is really hard to get fuel without alcohol in it in my area,this is why I recommened only leaving4-5 gallons in the vehical, if you have to drop the tank it makes the task that much easier to deal with. I don't know about the rest of you all, but getting rid of bad fuel is a major problem here in New Jersey, and can cost almost as much as a new tank($200.00 plus)I'll take my chances and check on things from time to time. I know about the rust issues, trust me I've a few in my day, but the way the fuel is now I'd rather not fill it because of the water alcohol attracks, thats just my .02...............................Bill 


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Posted: 10/2/09 7:10am Message 8 of 18
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HOWELL, NJ - USA
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Vette(s): 1979, Targa Blue (72 Color), Pace Car rear spoiler, L88 hood, Dark blue factory interior, 525HP 406, HD 700R4, 370 gears,Steeroids, composite rear spring, TT IIs wrapped in T/A Radials.

I'm going to try to not let the Lukester sit for more than 30 days this winter and I'll keep a quarter tank turning over whenenver we give it a blast...Wink




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Posted: 10/2/09 2:16pm Message 9 of 18
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Middle Island, NY - USA
Joined: 8/25/2009
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Vette(s): 1974 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupe mille miglia red - black interior 1 of 12,346 4-spds. of 37,503 '74 production production date: 12-'73 L48 350 4 bbl. V8 - dual exhaust M20 4-spd. manual a/c, p/b, p/s, am/fm. rear def.

I bought an inexpensive plastic pump with hoses to pump the fuel out of the tank after the winter.

I only keep 4 gallons in tank over the winter and fills two plastic gas containers when ready to replace the 4 month old gas.


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Posted: 10/13/09 5:49am Message 10 of 18
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Kendall Park, NJ - USA
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Vette(s): 1981 - 59 Beige over Cinnebar leather. Edlebrock top end, 2200 stall w/shift kit, 3:55s, Mufflex maniback exhaust, nice stereo, 16 in AREs w/BFGs
My shop also advises full tank and sta-bil for the winter nap. If the tank is full theres no "sweating".  Another little tidbit is dryer sheets in the cabin. The car smells fresh in the spring.  DONT LAUGH, steel wool in the exhaust ends just incase of mice.  A very good friend of mine nearly blew off the floor in his 67 Etype from a mouse nest in the muffler. I hate putting my car away....  


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