Topic: Brake Bleeding: What am I doing wrong?
in Forum: C3 Handling Components
Dave be very careful on the material of the O rings. Just make sure it's compatable with American brake fluid. Years ago I had an MG and used American brake fluid. The British used natural rubber in the MC, which turn into gum. Not long after the fluid addition.............I was without brakes. It takes a lot of white knuckle driving to make it home with no brakes. I then rebuilt my MC. It's not very hard to do. The only special tool needed is a hone to reface the cylinder.
Buna N does work with Dot 4 fluid. Just make sure they are not real rubber, and also make sure to use the proper ID OD and thickness of the rings

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Another wild idear I have on it....take the bleeders out of the front calipers completely, and see if the holes for the fluid where the bleeders thread in are stopped up. I have definitely seen this in calipers, both rebuilt, and old ones on the car. Crud builds up there over time, and sometimes, it just won't allow fluid to pass thru the bleeders. I'm not talking about the bleeders themselves, but the holes in the calipers. But...I have also seen bleeders that were crudded up enough to not allow flow.
Just because the calipers are rebuilt doesn't mean they were cleaned really well before.
It's worth a look-see, anyway.
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it has electrical insulating properties.
Typical properties of EPDM vulcanizates are given below. EPDM can be compounded to meet specific properties to a limit depending first on the EPDM polymers available, then the processing and curing method(s) employed. EPDMs are available in a range of molecular weights (indicated in terms of Mooney viscosity ML(1+4) at 125 °C), varying levels of ethylene, third monomer and oil content.( This was copied from wikipedia)
Fingers and toes crossed for you Dave. If it don't work go for the pressurized MC setup..........I think that's plan C.