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Re: Rack and Pinion Steeroids Steering

Posted: 2/9/15 10:10am Message 11 of 17
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Vette(s): 1977 T-Top,350,Auto Black Ruby Pearl,Steeroids R&P conversion
Just an Idea I think both steeroids and Borgeson user seem to be happy with their units you could go to each web site look at the installation instructions for your car and see which you would feel comfortable installing. I believe after installation you would want to get a good alignment which is another issue finding someone who can align your vette correctly


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Re: Rack and Pinion Steeroids Steering

Posted: 2/9/15 2:45pm Message 12 of 17
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
rraider1 said:   Someone who has the borgeson unit, does it replace all these components? 



Yes it does away with the steer cylinder and control valve. 

The the power steering pressure and return lines go straight from the power steering pump to the steering box like a typical old school GM A & G body (Cutlass, Regal, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix)

Clean and simple. 




GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
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'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
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Re: Rack and Pinion Steeroids Steering

Posted: 2/9/15 3:06pm Message 13 of 17
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Sarge81 said:
rraider1 said:   Someone who has the borgeson unit, does it replace all these components? 



Yes it does away with the steer cylinder and control valve. 

The the power steering pressure and return lines go straight from the power steering pump to the steering box like a typical old school GM A & G body (Cutlass, Regal, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix)

Clean and simple. 


To add to that, it also replaces the old steering box with the newer design, faster ratio, steering box. (Right?)



   

Re: Rack and Pinion Steeroids Steering

Posted: 2/9/15 3:30pm Message 14 of 17
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What ratio is the original Saginaw type steering box on a 68. Do I go with a 12:1 ratio; 8:1 ratio, 6:1 (which seems like maybe to responding and to tight of steering) 
or 14:1 to 17:1.  
For street driving and autocross. 




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Posted: 2/9/15 5:38pm Message 15 of 17
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Original box was 16:1.  The Borgeson is around 12:1 and I think the Steeroids is similar.

If you shop around, like on Summit, etc., you can get the Borgeson at a pretty reasonable price.



   

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Posted: 2/10/15 10:19am Message 16 of 17
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It looks as though both are good upgrades. I recommended looking at the installation instruction because for the borgesen I believe you have to remove the steering column to change the length How was that procedure?


Re: Rack and Pinion Steeroids Steering

Posted: 2/10/15 1:55pm Message 17 of 17
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rraider1 said: It looks as though both are good upgrades. I recommended looking at the installation instruction because for the borgesen I believe you have to remove the steering column to change the length How was that procedure?

I agree, they are both good upgrades. 

On a Borgeson there is no need to remove the steering column unless the steering shaft is completely seized. 
I've installed two of these units. Ebo's and my vette. I sprayed the shaft with penetrating oil and then took a soft face mallet and collapsed the shaft into the column a couple inches. Just have to be careful not to get carried away. I got both of our car the steering shafts to slide in and out like butter after working it back and forth with penetrating oil. 

Gary, yes the steering was a lot quicker. From what I recall I went from like 3 turns lock to lock to 2.5 turns. 




GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


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