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Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/15/12 9:37am Message 11 of 33
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Vette(s): 1974 coupe. 350 CID with Turbo 400 trans. Decal says 8.5:1 compression. Needs paint and AC replaced but don't plan on full restoration. Car runs strong. No big problems so far. 67,000 miles on Odometer, probably rolled over
Read this thread. You guys are awesome. The only site I've been on where people are like this is the songwriting site I frequent.

Lizard skin? MAMO? Floor seams?

So much to take in.
I haven't even thought about my 74's interior yet.

But I already have some things to think about thanks to this. I will need new carpet but I never thought much about spraying the floor before hand.



It has been over a year since I started. I had to quit the project so the car just sat in the garage. I was able to get started again in May 2012. As of July 27 2012 I have done the fiberglass repairs and applied Slick Sand High Build Primer.




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Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/16/12 9:22am Message 12 of 33
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Vette(s): Coupe 74 - 454 Drive it like you stole it!
Last winter, I took the interior out and did just that; removed the factory coating.  I was planning to only replace the carpet, but the project got a little bigger.

The original coating was pealing, so I didn't want to spray anything over; had to remove the old stuff first.  I tried a few different methods; dry (with a scraper), chemicals and finally; heat gun.  The heat gun with a 2" scraper worked really good.  I only removed the coating on the floor pan and elbow area.  Not the back seat area as it appears to be a different kind of coating and it was not pealing at all.

Under this original coating, you will see other kind of seams (roughly done mind you); those you don't take off.  That's what glues the floor pan to the body.  I'm really glad I took the coating off of mine; because I found 1 big and 2 small areas needing repair at the seams that I would have not seen if I had not removed the coating.  I would push on the floor pan with a finger and be able to see the ground at the seams.  It has cracked and separated.  An epoxy cocktail followed by some fiberglass patches did the job.

Then I sprayed the area with a beige rubberized spray coating (3 coats). (Non-asphalt based product unless you want the smell).

The step after that for me was to add some kind of heat insulation (on a budget); so I opted for this foil product sold at the big home renovation stores (reflectix).    I also purchased a carpet set that has extra rubber and extra jute padding on it.  That's where I stand now; I have not put back the carpet in yet.

Long story short; if your original coating is not pealing; leave it there and add some heat insulation; such as lizard skin (all the way up including firewall) and verify you don't have any separation at the floor.  You would want to fix this before you put the new carpet in!  The good news is that our floor pan (74) are not metal; so we don't have to deal with rust!

Steph.



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Posted: 7/16/12 9:46am Message 13 of 33
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Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/16/12 7:57pm Message 14 of 33
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Awesome write ups, I was thinking a lot about using relectex in the back and a quality adhesive matting in the front. Is anyone using the vette nuts pre cut insulation kits? They are on sale right now but I can't find many reviews. D



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Posted: 7/17/12 10:33am Message 15 of 33
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Lots of different options are available for you to choose.  I decided to go the Dynamat route.   I spoke to a tech at Dynamat and he told me that the Dynamat has to go directly onto a clean surface.  So I removed all the factory applied sound damper material with a heat gun and a sharp 2" scraper.  Afterwards, I cleaned off the remainder with odorless mineral spirits.  Then applied Dynamat and rolled it down tight with a small 1.5" wide wooden roller from my wallpaper tool box.  Then, I applied 1/4" thick Dynapad on top.  
I also did some work under the floor.  Years of oil leaking softened the factory applied undercoating so that scraped off easily.   On other areas I tried Eastwood's chemical undercoating removal spray but that didn't do anything.  So I used the heat gun and scraper again and got areas that were relatively easy to access.  Then I applied some "Zero Clearance" insulation above the areas where the exhaust pipes are.  Overall, it's a lot of work, but now it's done and I have moved on.  The car is still on jack stands so I can't offer any performance information.  Maybe I'll get it going by next Spring.....

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Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/17/12 12:48pm Message 16 of 33
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First of all big ole welcome to our family Dennis.HugI'm a simple kinda guy. When I tore my carpet out I bought a box of scrap heat shield, sound deadner stuff from Mid-America and made my own insulation. This lizzards skin dynomats stuff overwhelms me.Confused All I can say is before I did this you couldn't wear sandals without burnin your foot. Now no problem. Be careful of the glue you use though. Stuff I used reminded my of my days back in the 60's then  I got this big ole headache. Wacko




Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/17/12 3:18pm Message 17 of 33
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Ok, I think I decided (hopefully I placed an order).  I ordered the vette nuts deluxe kit with foil insulation and Ensolite IUO insulation.   Next I ordered the MAMO carpet kit to go over the top of the insulation.  Has anyone ordered a complete interior screw kit?  Any thoughts on who has the best kit?

Pics to follow, the insulation kit wont ship till next week so it will be some time before I get it.  Thanks again for everyone's opinions and advice. 

Dennis





Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/17/12 9:14pm Message 18 of 33
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Vette(s): 1974 White 350 Corvette, TH400 Automatic 1972 Tangerine /Go Mango Convertible 383 Stroker, 2004r Automatic
i've purchased complete intweior screw kits from both ecklers and corvette america. i'm glad i had two kits as i waa putting mine together because for me some of the screws in each kit weren't right. but with both kits i had options.and yes i will have a bunch left over. good luck Rodney



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Posted: 7/18/12 6:18am Message 19 of 33
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Vette(s): #1 *1980 White, Red interior 14,000 mile #2 *1980 Red, Oyster interior 93,000 miles Resto project car, rebuilt to 383 stroker
 I purchased some of these long straight picks from Snap On, (Stock #: PSLR4-3 ) can find cheaper ones I'm sure, when they did the install at MAMO they would find the screw holes and poke these picks thru the carpet and into the screw hole that held the carpet in proper placement, when they wher ready they removed the pick and put the screw into the spot where the pick was. Worked real nice.
They used a 3M brush on glue and yes it did have a High smell. They let that glue flash for quite a while also. We made Terry (my71T) put both hands in his pockets...just to be safe Embarrassed
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Re: Interior advice

Posted: 7/18/12 6:15pm Message 20 of 33
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I'm reading my post from last night about the interior screw kits and I have to laugh. I was on my way home from a Nationals game last night when I wrote the reply, riding in the back seat with no lights on. Looking at it I didnt do very well! What I was trying to say was that I ordered 2 kits from 2 different suppliers. Glad I did as some screws from each kit wouldnt work so I had choices of the extra set. And its never a bad thing to have some extras left when your done for a future task!
Oh, by the way the Nationals won and that Harper kid is the real deal! Shame hes not a Yankee!
Rodney




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