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Dave - My mechaninc is a long time Chevy wrench. The repair joint works on tons of Vettes, mostly C3 and C4 and a pile of muscle cars and hot rods.
I was told the mid 70s to 82 Vettes were notorious frequent fliers to the dealer for every sort of problem in man kind. Were there any issues that required "re-engineering".
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That's the years when manufacturers were putting their major efforts into meeting emissions standards and safety standards required by the government...power ratings were down, quality control suffered as the money investment was redirected, costs were up, etc. It took car makers quite some time to be able to meet the government mandated standards and return performance and reliability to a higher level of priority. It's not that they wanted to build unreliable and harder to service cars, it was an unavoidable convergence of meeting all the mandates and keep selling prices reasonable...something had to give. It wasn't just Vettes.
Look at a C3 from that era...not much space to cram much in...extra emissions equipment...additional options people wanted, etc. That much stuff in a small space made for extra heat and serviceability problems.
I had a '78 L82...nice car overall...great driver and performed well...after I removed the emissions equipment and added full dual exhaust. It was also full of late '70s quality control, if you want to call it that. It was adequately put together but cheaper materials. Again...that wasn't confined to just Corvettes and GM. My Dad bought new a 1976 Continental Mark IV...absolutely gorgeous car. It couldn't get out of its own way performance-wise. It got poor fuel economy and the interior was full of such obviously plastic "wood" trim I thought if they couldn't put real wood trim in don't bother with such poor looking stuff.
Gunslinger - Theres a book or something out called "The decade QC missed" about 70s QC. My mom had a a Mercury Montego that the door literally fell off the car and laid in the street the day they drove her home. My 70 that is being restored, had a nasty gram written on a 6pack carrier tucked under the rugs along with 2 crushed empties...
I guess my question should be clarified to engineering faux pas instead of QC issues..
Guys, the short and long answer is, "read my book, Corvette from the Inside." I included there a situation analysis of the car when I joined the team as well as a discussion of the endemic problems we found and dealt with over the next several years. Our experience with suppliers and dealers led to the establishment of the Corvette Action Center, whose motto there was no unsolvable problem. Dave

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[QUOTE=KeBo] Dave - My mechaninc is a long time Chevy wrench. The repair joint works on tons of Vettes, mostly C3 and C4 and a pile of muscle cars and hot rods.
Dave let me begin by saying Thank You for becoming a member of this site! I look forward to your insight an wisdom through your expierence with GM and the Corvette. Welcome Aboard....
CAC is great site and has some super members and has spme helpful information for Corvette owners. I have the privilege to know several of the folks there and a few are members here as well.
Part of Kevin's question as I read it went unanswered. That being engineering during the period from 70-82 were there changes that came about as a result of the quality isses?
Could you elaborate on this?Tuxblacray 2010-01-20 06:01:29
I was told the mid 70s to 82 Vettes were notorious frequent fliers to the dealer for every sort of problem in man kind. Were there any issues that required "re-engineering".
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Dave let me begin by saying Thank You for becoming a member of this site! I look forward to your insight an wisdom through your expierence with GM and the Corvette. Welcome Aboard....
CAC is great site and has some super members and has spme helpful information for Corvette owners. I have the privilege to know several of the folks there and a few are members here as well.
Part of Kevin's question as I read it went unanswered. That being engineering during the period from 70-82 were there changes that came about as a result of the quality isses?
Could you elaborate on this?

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CAC is great site and has some super members and has spme helpful information for Corvette owners. I have the privilege to know several of the folks there and a few are members here as well.
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CAC is great site and has some super members and has spme helpful information for Corvette owners. I have the privilege to know several of the folks there and a few are members here as well.
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Tux,
The CAC he was referring to was the original CAC. Not the website we know today.
[QUOTE=CorvetteActionCenter.com about us page]
In 1988, a special customer support team was started at the Corvette manufacturing facility in Bowling Green, Kentucky, called the "Corvette Action Center". This team was designed to provide technical information directly to Corvette customers and dealerships. It consisted of Danny Hawkins, Harold White, Sonny Kilgo, Gordon Killebrew, Jerry Watts and Ed O'Keefe. By the time the Corvette Action Center was shut down around 1995, the Center was receiving approximately 200 calls per day via the toll-free phone number.
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Ok, now I don't mean to get this thread of topic, so consider my post just a clarification of the above posts.
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Thanks Adam.... I guess my coffee hadn't kicked in yet. I knew that but imediately related to CAC on-line. I guess its time for me to get a morning shower and wake up a bit!

Dave - Thanks, My wife bought me an autographed copy last week. I just got it on 1/19 for my birthday. I have a nice long flight next week and I have my reading ready! Kevin
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Wow, Im impressed. I saw the name Dave McLellan and thought "naw.. it cant be" but it is. Thanks for joining Dave. Your book just went on my "buy next" list.
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