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Friend of mine is looking at a 67.Is there a # in the vin to look for to tell if it's real or if not. what other signs can I look for.Going to see after work today.Seen pics,looks real nice.Seller wants $25,000
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Pontiac ain't my thing, but I doubt if there was anything in the VIN that would help. Not even an engine size back then. There are some trim differences, but they can be "faked". Actually, I'm sure most all of it could be faked...look at all the L88 Vettes out there!
Maybe someone here will have some info for ya.
I have a friend back home that is a Pontiac freak. He owns a SWEET original 64 GeeTo, and a 70 TA. His garage looks more like a dealership parts department!
Maybe someone here will have some info for ya.
I have a friend back home that is a Pontiac freak. He owns a SWEET original 64 GeeTo, and a 70 TA. His garage looks more like a dealership parts department!
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I did notice from the pics that the engine has been painted gold.Now I know they were supposed to be light blue,At least thats what my 62 cat and 79 TA were.CLEAN CLEAN looking 67 goat tho'
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The vin tag will tell you if it's a real GTO. The first 3 digits for a 67 should be "242". 2=pontiac 42=GTO. The next 2 digits will be the body style. 07=2 dr. coupe/post, 17= 2dr hardtop. The sixth digit should be a 7 (1967).
The block casting# for the 1967 should be 9786133.rearn2go72 2007-02-06 10:47:38
The block casting# for the 1967 should be 9786133.
[QUOTE=rearn2go72] The vin tag will tell you if it's a real GTO. The first 3 digits for a 67 should be "242". 2=pontiac 42=GTO. The next 2 digits will be the body style. 07=2 dr. coupe/post, 17= 2dr hardtop. The sixth digit should be a 7 (1967).
The block casting# for the 1967 should be 9786133. [/QUOTE] You are exactly right he called he and told me the first three were indeed 242.Man,did he ever get the steal of a lifetime.Now I haven't seen it yet but a couple of my co-workers have and they said it's sweet.It doestn have a counsel, so when I see it sat.I'll check and see why.Wouldn't a non counsel car with buckets have a colume shift?Right now it has one of those ratchet shifters with a line lock.Maybe it used to have a counsel,I won't know until I see it.I'm pretty pumped because I used to have a 69 Judge WITH the hidaway lights.I know hes happy.He didn't care if he found a clone something because he hangs with us at work and we all have something.I will say that he listened to me and didn't jump the first pretty face that came along. Is that block casting just for a GTO and he will have to check futher to see if it's #'s match?zgator 2007-02-06 17:13:53
The block casting# for the 1967 should be 9786133. [/QUOTE] You are exactly right he called he and told me the first three were indeed 242.Man,did he ever get the steal of a lifetime.Now I haven't seen it yet but a couple of my co-workers have and they said it's sweet.It doestn have a counsel, so when I see it sat.I'll check and see why.Wouldn't a non counsel car with buckets have a colume shift?Right now it has one of those ratchet shifters with a line lock.Maybe it used to have a counsel,I won't know until I see it.I'm pretty pumped because I used to have a 69 Judge WITH the hidaway lights.I know hes happy.He didn't care if he found a clone something because he hangs with us at work and we all have something.I will say that he listened to me and didn't jump the first pretty face that came along. Is that block casting just for a GTO and he will have to check futher to see if it's #'s match?
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I'm not sure about the console in a 67 but I bought a new 65 with 4 speed and bucket seats and it did not have a console.
The 9786133 block casting number is for the 1967 year only.
The 9786133 block casting number is for the 1967 year only.
Well, I just learned something new.
If, I'm not mistaken, there was no way to determine the validity of the GTO from 64 to 66. At least that's what I've been told.
Prior to buying my 74 C3, I was really interested in a 65 GTO, unfortunately the one that I liked were above what I had available to spend. If I had only known how much I was going to spend on my C3, I could have gotten my Goat !
Back in the 60's, I had a 65 Lemanswith a 421/3-2's/4 speed/433 rears. All I needed to do was change the trim (as Joel stated) and it was a GTO (clone) If I had installed a 389 you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
A friend of mine had true 65 GTO and we compared bill of sale ( for what reason I can't recall) what we noticed was that both BOS, ID the cars as Lemans models.
I also recall reading an article in a car mag, alerting investors of the collector car scams, and the early GTO's were the subject example used. The article actually did mention the that the BOS ID's the GTO as a Lemans.
The article included a story of a buyer who purchased a pristine early GTO for a decent amount. After owning it for almost a year, the new owner discovered that the car was a clone. How he determined that escapes me, but, the best is when the original seller was told, he gladly reimbursed the buyer the full amount.
It seems that the seller is a heavy hitter in the collector car market, and he was also led to believe the car was authentic.
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Warbird,
You're right about not being able to identify both the 64 and 65 GTO. The vin tag on both years identified the car as a Lemans. 1966 was the first year that the "242" identified the car as a GTO on the vin tag. I think that contined through the 1971 model.
I had 2 new GTOs, a 65 and a 72. My ex-wife still has the 72 and the BOS identifies the car as a lemans with the GTO option.
You're right about not being able to identify both the 64 and 65 GTO. The vin tag on both years identified the car as a Lemans. 1966 was the first year that the "242" identified the car as a GTO on the vin tag. I think that contined through the 1971 model.
I had 2 new GTOs, a 65 and a 72. My ex-wife still has the 72 and the BOS identifies the car as a lemans with the GTO option.
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