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Help! Hood wont Open (1/14)
 7/22/10 3:04pm
TommySSE
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1982 Corvette - "Ruby" has a couple of minor fixes needed and I'm hoping someone can help.
  1. The hood will NOT open - it seems that the passenger latch will not release.  Does anyone one have any suggestions on how to get it to release so I can repair it?
  2. Brake Lights - I bought a new brake light switch and wish to switch it out.  Being an XL mid-aged, not that flexible of a guy, I can't get an angle on it when I try to go under the dash.  Is it better to remove the dash to get to it? if so what is the best way to go about removing the dash? or should I take it to Tony's Corvette Shop in Gaithersburg, MD to get it done?
  3. Headlight switch - I pull the knob to turn on the lights and it blows a fuse.  Time for a new switch? or is this a sign of possibly other issues?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

If this topic has been discussed prior - please point me to the discussion - I have not learned how to perform a search yet.




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Help! Hood wont Open (2/14)
 7/22/10 4:37pm
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STUCK HOOD ON 1982:
Your problem is not uncommon.  30 year old cables are prone to snap, leaving the hood latched with no easy way to get to it.

If the drivers side of the hood is releasing but the passenger side is not it is probably the "crossover" cable that runs between the two latches that is broken.  This is the cable that snakes over on top of your distributor.  While standing beside of the car on the passenger side, reach under the back edge of the hood into the wiper trough.  You should be able to feel a rubber "plug" in the front of the trough that protrudes into the engine compartment.  HERE is a photo of that plug taken from the engine compartment side.  This plug can be pushed out of its hole into the engine compartment. You can the use a flat tool, perhaps a flat screwdriver that has been bent to poke through the hole and push DOWN on the latch to release it.  Yes, this will be a fishing expedition, especially if you have never done this before but it will work.   HERE is a pic of the tool protruding through the firewall into the engine compartment and engaging the latch.  You must push down on the bottom of the latch to release it.  THIS is a tool that I made to accomplish this job and it works "OK", but still requires quite a bit of fishing.  THIS photo will show the approximate location of the hole you will be shooting for in relation to the fender / hood line.  The 82 has some pretty big "gill" slits when the grilles are removed but I just looked and dont think you would have enough room to get to the latch or cable if you removed them. If you have a vette buddy who has a late model C-3 looking at the latches from the inside will give you a clearer idea of what needs to be done.

This problem is so common that some of the corvette suppliers are now selling "emergency cables" that just drop down to the bottom of the engine compartment where they can be accessed by reaching underneath the car.  I made my own emergency cables out of some bicycle brake cable.

BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH:
I replaced my brake light switch last weekend and Im also a big guy who does not fit well under the dash.  The easiest way to do this is NOT to remove the dash but to remove the drivers seat.  The seat is secured to the floor of the car by 4 bolts which are welded onto the seat frame and pass through the floor.  4 simple nuts from under the car is all that is holding it in place.  Once the nuts are off the seat can be lifted out once you unsnap the electrical connections for the seat belt buzzer and power seat if you have that. With the seat out you can get under the dash much easier.  Removing the seat is the worst of the job.  The park light switch is held in place on its bracket by a toothed spring gromet.  When you first look at the switch you will think its screwed into the bracket but it is not.  HERE is a picture of an 82 brake light switch in place in the gromet.  If you have cruise control there will be 2 connectors on the switch, if no cruise then there will only be one.  Disconnect the connector then simply grab the big part of the switch and pull backward and the switch will pull right out of the gromet, it does not unscrew.  Insert the new switch against the gromet and push it all the way forward. As the threaded portion of the switch slides into the gromet it will click as the teeth engage the threads, but push it all the way. To adjust the switch once its all the way in the gromet you simply grab the brake pedal and pull it back toward you until the switch stops clicking  as it backs itself out of the gromet. Pull the pedal back toward you once more to make sure the switch stops clicking and its done.. re-attach the electrical, test to make sure the brake lights work then reinstall the seat. When you re-install the seat make sure the seat back is raised when you sit the seat into place, if installed with the seat folded it will not clear the steering wheel to open once bolted down.

The headlights Ill leave to someone else with more electrical experience, Im sure someone will chime in.
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Help! Hood wont Open (3/14)
 7/22/10 7:04pm
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WOW, Chip.  Great photos and narrative!!!!
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Help! Hood wont Open (4/14)
 7/23/10 3:56am
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Thanks Dan, I hope they will help Tommy get "Ruby" back on the road.
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Help! Hood wont Open (5/14)
 7/23/10 5:08am
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Cry   BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH!  From experience, DO NOT get a cheap one from a parts store that is made in, korea,china,japan or any other country but U.S.of A.  You will be replaceing it again real soon! I have had a couple replacements and they do not last. I only paid for one, the others were replacements.  Get  G.M. they will last close to 30 years. 

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Help! Hood wont Open (6/14)
 7/23/10 10:28am
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To address your headlight question.....
The headlights themselves have a circuit breaker.  It will pop and reset itself if the problem is in the headlights.  So the problem is in the rest of the lights somewhere.  That could include dash lights, front lights or rear lights, or the wiring anyplace in between.  You could unplug the wiring harness that goes to the back and the front one under the hood.  If you still blow a fuse, it is under the dash or in the dash lights.  If the is now OK, you can check each end with an ohm meter to see where the short is.  That should narrow it down, but it is just tedious work after that.

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Help! Hood wont Open (7/14)
 7/24/10 6:28am
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Brake Light Switch - I had to replace mine during the gathering in MIchigan earlier this year.  I'm not a small guy either.  I didn't remove the seat, just got in there with my back on the floor and my legs up in the seat.

My best advice - get a good, strong light you can take down with you that you don't need specific direction with (not a flashlight).  All I had was a small mag light and obvioulsly needed both hands for the replacement and couldn't hold on to it (the light).

I've taken my dash apart once (just once!) and I won't do it again myself.  This job seems tough, but it's nothing compared to taking the dash out.  You can do it.



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Help! Hood wont Open (8/14)
 7/24/10 7:51pm
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Excellent pictures and instructions for hood cable. That's one of the may reasons I love being a member here.
 
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Help! Hood wont Open (9/14)
 7/29/10 7:41am
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Chip, This is just what I needed - I'm impressed with the clarity of the pics and instructions.  I'll be following them closely this weekend.

Dan, Larry, Scott, Marshall, Mark,  Pray for me - I'll be going in to replace the brake light switch that I bought from NAPA (hope its american made).  Since I'm more of a mechanical guy - I'm going to take Ruby to see Tony Avedisian at Tony's Corvette Shop in Gaithersburg, MD. (http://www.tonyscorvetteshop.com/index.aspx)  to get talent to do the work.  I don't do electrical.  If I can't just plug it in like replacing a fuse or light bulb - its not a good idea for me to go there.
Thanks EVERYONE,
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Help! Hood wont Open (10/14)
 7/29/10 9:46am
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Ya.  I watched Marshall change his at Holland.  Wish I had taken a picture of the event!!!  You should have an easier time changing that switch out than Marshall did.  " Dominus go friskum"
That is a variation of a latin prayer !!!  Go get um Tommy !!
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Help! Hood wont Open (11/14)
 7/30/10 8:30am
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Eurodesk here; I just had this hood problem in the same area that you did, what I did was use a
coat hanger and made a hook on one end and left the driver side of the hood up as far as possible
and fish for the latch and pull the hanger towards you. it may take a couple of treys but it will work.  
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Help! Hood wont Open (12/14)
 8/2/10 8:11pm
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I've got good news!  Chips instructions are GREAT!..  Still I entered the task of opening my hood with apprehension.  So here is my story of success.
First - I moved the wiper blades to their furthest up position.  This made it very easy to see the plug grommet.  I took a long screw driver and poked it through the firewall.  It didn't want to move out of the way - so I decided on pulling it back through towards the windshield.  Very easy.  Next I used a 15" screw driver that has a bent tip on it - kind of like a crow bar.  I placed it on the latch and pushed down an pop the hood was open.  Boy was I relieved. 
What I found was the cable was intact on both ends.  what was broken was the driver side cable housing hold down. I wish I knew how to put the photo links in like Chip did - I took pics so you could see the steps I took.  I found a square firm washer and placed it between the hold down screw and the cable housing.  Then tightened it against the remaining bracket.  Works great! - I believe it will hold me until I get to Carlisle.
Someone - tell me how I can share my pics!


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Help! Hood wont Open (13/14)
 8/3/10 9:12am
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Great news, glad you got it open  ClapClap
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Help! Hood wont Open (14/14)
 8/3/10 9:37am
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I think Crossfire1982 needs to submit his How to open the hood to the "How to Section" 

I was lucky when mine did not open it was not the cross cable and I was able to reach under the drivers side and just pull the cross cable.
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