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Fed up with high gas prices?

Posted: 7/3/07 8:26am Message 1 of 13
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I recently took action to tell Congress it is time to increase the miles per gallon standards for cars.  According to Consumers Union, the nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports, better gas mileage for our cars is arguably the best way to shrink the  growing demand for oil and relieve pressure on gasoline prices.

This year families will pay over $1000 extra annually for gasoline compared to the late 1990s.  Congress can increase the miles per gallon standards for vehicles, so a tank of gas will get us farther down the road.

Just go to http://cu.convio.net/gas07 and take action.

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Posted: 7/3/07 10:22am Message 2 of 13
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But...then it will cost more than that to buy a new car, cause they'll add the development cost to the cars...so, people buying the new cars that get the better mileage will still be paying out the nose!
Ya just cain't win!

I agree tho, that something needs to be done to decrease the American market's dependence on oil...and decrease the price at the pump...


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Posted: 7/3/07 11:03am Message 3 of 13
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Here is what bothers me about the mileage. New research does NOT need to be done to improve mileage! Think of this: i am currently driving a '95 dodge neon (stick shift, admittedly), and my combined mileage, if i keep it at 65, is 38mpg. I’m serious. Now, consider the Volkswagen Rabbit diesel of the late '80's: 45+mpg. The Chevy Sprint/Geo Metro 3cyl, (stick again): 50+ mpg on highways. My favorite is the next pickup i am looking to buy (next couple of years): the VW Diesel: 48 mpg freeways.

Think its only older cars? What about the new VW bugs, TDI, 50+ freeway mileage. I don’t understand why have to go to the new hybrid technology to get high freeway mileage. For stop and go, i can agree, hybrid is excellent for those who are stuck in stop and go traffic jams. If i were, i would own one. But, being the cheapskate i am, i arranged my life so i drive opposing traffic, so i could buy a $700 neon instead




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Posted: 7/3/07 11:05am Message 4 of 13
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ClapClap Bravo from rootbeerfloat family.  Right now California is in the midst of health care reform. But from the number of vehichles  in our household all old, I say yes,yes, yes,. Thanks for the link its a great one.  JIMMY got one car from 23miles to the gallon up to 30miles so far. I dont know what he does but even older cars can be tinkered with for better,cleaner fuel consumption.


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Posted: 7/3/07 11:15am Message 5 of 13
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If a 2007 Corvette with a V8 500+ HP engine can get 28 Highway...many other cars should be getting at least that!


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Posted: 7/3/07 11:36am Message 6 of 13
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Congress needs to do lots of things.

Having worked on this and other national energy issues 33 years ago, I can speak to it with some degree of knowledge—and a whole LOT of frustration and irritation with both political parties, for largely ducking their responsibility to the nation by consistently refusing to address this critical national security matter.

The fact is, we haven’t built enough refineries to keep pace with growing demand for gasoline and other petroleum products. Primarily because of the NIMBY mentality around the country. So we’re chronically short of enough refining capacity. When refineries have to shut down periodically for servicing, supplies of some petroleum products can run relatively low, triggering price rises. It’s just basic economics. On top of that, we’re now in growing competition for global oil supplies with fast-expanding economies like China and India. That puts added pressure on prices.

We’ve refused to aggressively pursue alternative forms of energy, from solar to geothermal to wind to coal gasification, oil shale and several more. We’ve also merrily gone about adding millions upon millions of new gasoline-powered vehicles to our roads—so despite significantly increased fuel economy figures since the original two energy crises, we’re still burning more gasoline than we did then. And the percentage of oil that we import has gone up as a direct result, thereby putting us in the very vulnerable predicament that we’re now facing.

Again. For the third time in as many decades.

You’d think we would have learned something by now, wouldn’t you?

Yes, higher mileage standards are a good idea. Just as they were thirty years ago. But if we keep on increasing the total number of cars and trucks on the road, the impact of those higher standards will be blunted—just as they have been over the last three decades.

Let’s face it. As a nation, we’re just not serious about confronting this problem. So we resort—aided by our cowardly political leaders—to ‘feel good’, partial answers. We want to put Band-Aids on a cancer that’s eating away relentlessly at our basic national security.

Want to really do some good? Tell Congress that they should get serious about promoting alternative forms of energy. They keep dicking around with the few laws they do pass, so that an important industry like solar photovoltaic is hampered by uncertainty. (These rooftop panels can power your entire household’s energy needs on many days, and are—right now, around the country—allowing homeowners the great feeling of owing NO money to their local electrical utility!)

Tell Congress and your state legislature that they need to find ways to help speed the construction of new refineries; since, because of their inaction over many years, we’re going to remain heavily dependent upon petroleum (especially imported petroleum) for many, many years to come. Demand that they fund more light rail systems around the nation. Launch a ‘Manhattan Project’-style research effort to unlock the vast resources of oil shale that we have in North America (we’ve got more oil in this form, right here, than the entire Middle East has in crude oil reserves). I could go on and on.

The simple, hard truth is: there is no one solution to the enormous energy challenges we face. Instead, there are many vital steps that we, as a nation, desperately need to take. But our national mindset these days—unlike some previous American generations—is to duck the tough questions, and the diverse range of answers that they demand—and resort to simplistic, politically-easy-to-swallow formulas.

We’ve had three clear, direct, harsh and even bloody warnings over the last thirty years. And we’ve failed, year in and year out, to do much of any real significance about them.

Think we’re going to do much better in the next thirty?



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Posted: 7/3/07 12:37pm Message 7 of 13
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Have you heard of the new cars being developed that run basically on AIR, thats right Compressed Air, they soon will be on sale round the world but not in th US Confused They are called MDICAT's cilrah2007-07-03 12:38:46


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Posted: 7/3/07 3:21pm Message 8 of 13
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I'm sure I don't think like most people when it come to this type of stuff, but if a poor oil company only makes 9.5 BILLION in profit for a quarter, you really have to feel sorry for them.
Cut gas in half and they would only make 4.25 Billion in profits....the poor companys.
Sure I know we need to find other types of energy, but that doesn't mean they have to take us to the cleaners.
I know I don't know what I'm talking about...but to me it's a rip off.


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Posted: 7/3/07 4:29pm Message 9 of 13
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Bravo Ted.... I agree! If you want the biggest bang for the buck research needs to be done in our future. Likewise as consumers we need to be serious about what we can do torwards acheiving our own balence.

Setting a limit or goal for the automakers on the MPG won't do crap towrds the root cause of our energy crisis.

What other stuff will be stuck on this bill? It's early in the game and typically when there is a public outcry some other not so desirable little tidbit gets added along. Not until later if lucky does that get mentioned.

This is a funny topic to find on an older vette site... Tux gets pretty poor milage compared to other cars of his era. All of the enternal motorwork didn't increase the MPG either.

My contribution to the economy has been I quit driving unless it is for pleasure. Since October of last year I haven't driven to work once. 4 miles a day I hoof it back and forth. It will save me approximately $1200.00 a year. Added benefits might be the loss of 40 lbs with blood pressure & cholesterol finally next to perfect. (My doctor doesn't lash out at me each vist anymore.)

Sometimes it's not good enough that we talk a good game we need to play it as well.....



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Posted: 7/3/07 7:13pm Message 10 of 13
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The Medicat seems amazing. I clicked on the link and saw what you were talking about. Clap


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