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Fifth wheel vs travel trailer

Posted: 7/16/15 6:57am Message 1 of 15
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OK folks, As you know or may not know or care I am moving to AZ later this summer after the girl(Sara) leaves for school.  I'll be boondocking in the RV for a year before building as I want to check out the best place to build. I've heard 5th wheels are more stable than TT's but I've also seen that they say fifth wheels have more room than TT's...not sure about that as 27' is 27' and you loose some space where the pickup bed is but whatever.

Can someone give me some of the pros and cons in the real world?  As far as size I'm probably going to stick around 24'-27'.  Alot depends on weight...not mine, the trailers.  Towing with a '03 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3 tow package off road package.

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Re: Fifth wheel vs travel trailer

Posted: 7/16/15 7:53am Message 2 of 15
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I have a travel trailer, my forth one. The reason I stay with the travel trailer is because I don't tow it around and you don't need a pick-up truck, You get a little more living space in them, but the 5th wheel is much better and easier to tow, also a lot of 5th wheel unit have what they call basement storage, under the living area, and they can be huge. Most 5th wheels have one bedroom on upper area which gives you a large living area, which may be great for you since it's just you. Based on 1 person and a long haul I think you would be better with the 5th wheel. The more slide outs the more room but they add weigh and cost. They make light weight units also. Check reviews on any model you like, since they are not the best well made things out there, trust me I know! I have a Gulf Stream and it's a piece of crap. Hade 2 Mallards before and both were great. Frank & Barb have a 5th wheel, Frank may also be able to give you some pointers. Good luck, if you have any questions I'll try to help you out.
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Posted: 7/16/15 7:56am Message 3 of 15
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5th wheels are more stable for towing. They track better with less sway, and are easier to control backing up. This is due to the load point being above the axle instead of out back. This also prevents the front of the tow vehicle from wanting to lift due to a lever effect. More room? Yes for the distance behind the tow vehicle. A regular trailer of 27 feet is all behind the truck. A 5th wheel has several feet above the truck, making the end of the trailer closer to the back of the truck. So while 27 feet is 27 feet, 27 feet behind the rear of the truck is longer trailer with more room. Depends on the measurement being used. So why regular trailers? The fifth wheel hitch takes away a lot of cargo space when not towing, and cannot be used with some types of trucks or some bed covering. Many older 5th wheel trailers are not tall enough and cannot be towed by newer taller trucks. And some folks are intimidated by fifth wheels when it comes to hook up, and sometimes overall height. Not really a big deal but ones perception is one's reality.


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Posted: 7/16/15 8:50am Message 4 of 15
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Head on over to iRV2.com and sign up.  You will get a ton of info and any questions answered.


   

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Posted: 7/16/15 9:39am Message 5 of 15
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F4Gary said: Head on over to iRV2.com and sign up.  You will get a ton of info and any questions answered.


Thanks, I'll do that.

"ones perception is one's reality"   Man, I've been trying to tell my kids that for years!

Dave, I'll probably have lots of questions for you guys at ebo's or I'll aggravate you and call.



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Posted: 7/16/15 1:33pm Message 6 of 15
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Dave, first find out what your 1/2 ton will tow.......it may narrow down your selections.
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Re: Fifth wheel vs travel trailer

Posted: 7/16/15 1:52pm Message 7 of 15
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Drive out and buy one off Craigslist in Phoenix and make them deliver it to your "pad" and save all sorts of gas money tugging it out there!
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/sss?sort=rel&query=5th%20wheel%20trailers


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Posted: 7/16/15 4:12pm Message 8 of 15
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RV dealer I saw today came up with a figure of 7900# which really narrows down the options on a fifth wheel.  Keeps it at 25'-26'. I was also told that they are better insulated and have more storage space than travel trailers.  Seems like a weird blanket statement but these folks sell all types of trailers so there shouldn't be any bias.

John, this was my thinking. 

Pros for getting one here: 
I'd be able to give it a test run to familiarize myself with it while being near the comfort of larger living situation.
If something goes wrong the dealer would be close.
I'd practise towing with a couple of outings(ebofest)
I'd be able to pack my stuff in it for the move.


Cons:
Price. Slightly cheaper on new ones out west and way cheaper on used.
Less selection on new and used.
I feel I would have to buy new, used would be a big risk...where was it used/stored.
Have to get a fifth wheel. With my lack of experience towing and a 2000 mile trip, i'd have to go with the easier towing fifth wheel.

Buying out there makes sense as the selection of used and prices is far superior.  Of the half dozen or so dealers I've talked to, all have delivery available to where my property is located. Not having to worry about towing and cheaper prices would mean more bang for my buck.

On the third side of this coin, I could just get a prefab building shell that is built on skids and move it around on the property every few months. 



Dave C..........My mantra: I can not be bought!!      Long and short term leases available.
In the words of Zora Arkus-Duntov "Is your seat belt fastened? Alright, Let's go"


Yeah, I know, Shut up Dave.
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Posted: 7/16/15 4:29pm Message 9 of 15
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Is upgrading your truck to a bigger towing capacity an option?


   

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Posted: 7/16/15 5:26pm Message 10 of 15
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+1 on fith wheel. More stable on the road, specially against side winds and that big 18 wheeler coming the other way on a two laner. Out there vs where your at 50-50. SW fifth wheels will be dry and rust free, but can definitely get baked by the sun. Paint, plastic, rubber etc. can all get pretty dried out if it's spent it's whole life in the SW. Buffalo area the rigs won't dry out as much but were they kept nice and dry and free from salt during storage ?? Run away from anything that's been stored outside on the grass or gravel during the winter. Personally, I think you should buy it in NY and experience the drive out to AZ. Things will go good and things will go bad (some very bad), but you'll never forget your first long trip in your RV, plus you'll be a seasoned veteran by the time you make it out to AZ. The biggest thing if you buy used in NY is tires, make sure they're new or almost new. Milage and tread wear mean nothing, time is an RV tires worst enemy. When you get out to AZ, cover them up !! Brand new tires will be baked in the AZ sun in less than a year. My two cents worth after 2 1/2 years and 15k miles in our motorhome. Good luck !!


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