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Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/24/07 7:50pm Message 1 of 11
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA
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Vette(s): 1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. Pace Car is in the hands of a new caretaker.
Rear tires on my new ride, 78, are both wearing more on the inside edges. Standing way back behind the car you can see it. Bottoms out, tops leaning in. Stopped in at the local Chevy dealer and the service guy didn't get too excited. Said he might be able to fix it some, what ever that means. Also said it could be rear wheel bearings and he pretty much wants nothing to do with that.
Any ideas what I'm up against or suggestions??
Thanks,  Jeff
Jeffm2007-04-24 19:52:24


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Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 3:16am Message 2 of 11
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Memphis, TN - USA
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Vette(s): 1981 Red 1993 Black Rose
 Jeff, I'm not a pro at this, but the tire/wheel angle you describe became evident on my '81, only not for a period long enough to wear the tread. My problem was bearings. To avoid serious problems, I'd jack that rear end up and see if there is end play at the spindles. It only takes a few minutes and well worth the effort. Just my thoughts.


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 8:29am Message 3 of 11
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Manteca, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
If the rear leaf spring is worn out that's how the tires will sit. I replaced mine with a composite spring and it straightened the wheels right back up. I f the bearings are that bad that's definately an emergency. Best check in to the cause before going much further than the gas station.


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 8:32am Message 4 of 11
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Edmond, OK - USA
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Vette(s): 1971 Brands Hatch Green L48 Coupe Automatic Driver - restored 1995
Could also be the rear strut rods or their bushings.  They are adjusted with an ecentric cam.


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 2:54pm Message 5 of 11
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Vette(s): 1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. Pace Car is in the hands of a new caretaker.
[QUOTE=aceinthehole]If the rear leaf spring is worn out that's how the tires will sit. I replaced mine with a composite spring and it straightened the wheels right back up. I f the bearings are that bad that's definately an emergency. Best check in to the cause before going much further than the gas station.[/QUOTE]

Question How much arch should the leaf spring have? Sitting in the garage with no one in the car and about 3/4 tank of gas I measured  to bottom of each end and then the center of the leaf.  It showed about 3/4 to 7/8 inch  of arch. Don't seem like much to me if you add a couple of people and a suitcase or two. If it turns out I need a spring but want to keep the car as original as possible should I go with steel or is the composite spring so much better as far as ride and everything else that I should say the heck with stock and go composite? I already have SS brakes and Napa belts and hoses, so I guess it ain't totally stock anyway.
Thanks again from a dumb carpenter, if it was wood I could fix it.
Jeff
Also, cars going to a small one man shop tomorrow. He's had a 77 so he's familar with C3's.
Jeffm2007-04-25 14:57:15


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 4:17pm Message 6 of 11
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If you enjoy sitting and looking at your car, go with the original stuff.
 
If you enjoy your hands on the wheel and foot on the accelerator, go with high quality parts from the myriad of good mfg's.



Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 4:36pm Message 7 of 11
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P.S. jeffm..............
 
MY .02.......Keep your new toy as far away as you can from your "friendly Chevrolet dealership." They know absolutely nothing about a C3 and are always in their "rip-off mode"......IMHO.



Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 8:17pm Message 8 of 11
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Vette(s): 1979 maui blue/doe skin, fuel injected 383, 6-speed manual, hooker sidepipes, 3.90 gear
Alignment can help some but more than likely your diff yokes are worn out, and need replaced. The yokes are held in by c-clips and can be worn to the point there will be no place for the clips at all. ( mine were) Take the time to at least change seals when you do this. Also check the clutch pack by grabbing the yokes and twisting in opposite directions, if you get any movement then put in a new clutch pack as well. They sell a kit with all seals and new bearings and gasket. I pulled the diff out of the car and payed $300 (labor) to have new gears, yokes, bearings, clutch pack and seals installed.(I furnished the parts) Reinstalled everything else and had it aligned.


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 8:41pm Message 9 of 11
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Manteca, CA - USA
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Vette(s): 1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold 1975 L48 4 speed
Jeff, sounds like the spring is the biggest reason for your problem, but it's important to check and repair all the issues involved with suspension and steering and so on. I've picked up some pretty cheap cars but I always repair the basics first. Brakes, steering, suspension, tires, driveline and body and interior last. I'm not a show guy, I just want my cars to be sound runners so you can head out to where ever with confidence.If money is tight, you can replace the  spring with stock for a 3rd of the price but there is no comparison to the ride of the composite, but they do stress the gas shocks with those. Good luck and let us know how the project comes out. aceinthehole2007-04-25 20:42:14


Rear Wheel Alignment?

Posted: 4/25/07 8:47pm Message 10 of 11
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Moses Lake, WA - USA
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 4-spd, Mahogany Metalic exterior, Buckskin interior 350ci/350hp, 3rd owner, fiberglass spring, 255/50-16's Torq-Thrust II

I would not take it to a Chevy dealer unless you know there is a tech who knows C3's. I took mine to our local Chevy dealer to have a 4 wheel alignment done after rebuilding the front and rear suspension. The service manager did not even know how to quote it because it was not on his computer. I took it to a local tire shop who had a guy that knew what he was doing. He had been doing alignments and suspension rebuilds for may years and knew how to set them up. So ask around and you might find some one who can work on the C3's. If you have a local muscle car club or even better a vette club ask some of the members for recommendations.




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