[QUOTE=ranger3]Should the car be worth more than 29K, given it's pedigree?

 

Scott[/QUOTE] Good question Scott, what I've always said is "Collectables are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them"  Right now I couldn't afford to pay 29k for it, but I would have paid more if I had the means. cilrah2010-01-14 05:10:47

From what I understood, the actual cars from the race(s) were never intended to be "salable" vehicles, so no titles, or MSO were ever issued for them. This would lead one to believe that the only title you would ever have for one would be a salvage/scrap title. In Texas, a car with a "Salvage" title is fully register-able, and legally drivable. Don't think I've ever run across a "scrap" title, so I couldn't venture a guess on that, but would assume it is the same as salvage? Adams' Apple2010-01-14 06:06:15

[QUOTE=cilrah] My question is, can you register a car that is sold with a scrap title?  Or would this mainly be a collectable that would have to sit in a garage of an average collector?  [/QUOTE]  

I can't speak for other states, but at least in California, once a title has been "salvaged" the car just has to be re-certified. An official state inspection station will check for safety issues, brakes, lights and lenses, glass, and smog plumbing.The service will cost under a hundred bucks, so long as the car passes, otherwise, you'll need to affect repairs and try again. Our 2 '78s are both showing salvaged on the title. One was actually in an accident but the other was on an extended non-operation tag and was labeled salvaged on a technicality when re-registered for the street .

There are some interesting this these Barrett-Jackson catalogs.  If you ever need some reading material for a long flight I suggest one of these catalogs.  There are concept cars listed for auction in this one that are sold with no title, no MSO, and no written documentation from the manufacture  I imaging something like this would be very hard to register. cilrah2010-01-14 19:47:48

[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Hey Mark, Great job!  Can I call you Columbo now?

[/QUOTE] Sure, why not

[QUOTE=cilrah][QUOTE=mkapp7879]Now I also want to know, if #1 is with GM, and #2 is Al's car, where are the regular 00003 and 00004 cars, were they sold to the public ???  The search continues.[/QUOTE]

Tom!! Good to see ya back on the forum. Long time no see!
I'm sure any info you could post on #3 would be greatly appreciated. I think just verifying that it exists would be a great start, as well as maybe what state is lives in these days. No personal info on the owner, of course.
Are there any really stand-out differences in it compared to a "regular" '78 Pacer?
Where has it been hiding all this time?
Any neat stories about it?
Was it actually sold thru normal, dealer channels, or did it go to someone "important"?
You know...just anything!
Happy to see you back!

Thanks. Well I recalled this thread and knew this was a pretty special opportunity so felt compelled to contribute, recognizing this group would be particular interested in the story. I'll keep the group posted and your questions have started a nice interview list of questions. Oh...I did get a chance to look at #2303 this past spring at Hendrick's Motorsports in Charlotte. Another low mileage unit, L82, M38 unit.