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Charging the battery (15/25)
 6/19/10 7:00am
LarryT
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Worthington, OH - USA

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Thanks for the info.  The battery that was in there was cheap and died before it's time.  I do use a Battery Tender, but I connect it via the cigarette lighter now.  I tried to connect it directly to the battery, but the existing battery is not a dual post and putting the clips under the terminal screws may have been what killed it early.  The cigarette lighter route should allow better connection for the battery's real purpose -- starting the car. Smile
Charging the battery (16/25)
 6/19/10 7:39am
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Charging the battery (17/25)
 6/19/10 9:31pm
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The P/N on the receipt is N9975/25 RED as Jim says 75/25 group.
I looked up the 1981 GM specs~ Battery SAE Designation No. and/or capacity = 115  minute Reserve Capacity. This Red top has 90 so it's a little less than the specs.
Did you go online and look up Optima Battery? Recommend it to find their recommended battery. 
 
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JPD1stVette2010-06-19 18:34:29

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Charging the battery (18/25)
 6/20/10 12:13pm
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Group 75/25 is the direct fit, if you have a high powered stereo or/and other high power usage accessories the yellow top D75/25 is a better choice.
The biggest advantages to the Optima battery is the construction. Besides being very rugged it does not have gases that vent from the battery. This feature alone is worth the extra money. Without gases being emitted there is no risk of explosion and there is no corrosion to the battery mount area or in the cables. The cranking amps are not rated at 32 degrees like other batteries but at zero degrees. The only maintenance necessary on these batteries is to clean the dust off of them.

In the 20 + years I have used them in my own vehicles and installed them in customers cars I only had one that was defective and it was replaced at no charge. Sams Club and Costco both have a very good price on them. I buy mine at my local NAPA, but I get a really good discount from them.

The red top is right for general automotive use and should give you 6-8 years of service easily. The maintainer I would recommend is the Battery Tender Plus. It comes with 2 sets of leads. One set can be permanently attached to your battery so it is just plugs in easily when it is needed. It also has the normal clip leads for use on other applications.
My last 2 red tops went 7 and 8 years. The blue top on my car trailer that runs the winch that was thoroughly abused by running it dead before charging on many occasions and lasted 9 years and 7 months.
The 82 currently has an Optima knock off called the Orbital previously sold by NAPA. Has the same characteristics but never seem to last as long as a red top. I used 2 and had to have both warranted so until it dies again it will be used.

Product specs for the 75/25 red top..http://www.optimabatteries.com/_media/documents/specs/75_25_082304.pdf
Charging the battery (19/25)
 6/20/10 12:40pm
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Another option for keeping the battery charged is you can hook the charger up to the big red wire at the Alt and ground at the adjusting bracket, my charger has a 2 amp setting. you do not need to hook up at the battery.
Charging the battery (20/25)
 6/20/10 11:45pm
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I keep that "Battery Tender" on mine, when not in use.

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Charging the battery (21/25)
 6/21/10 12:09am
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Red top in the Pony 3 years with no complaints. Ditto on the "other" fiberglass toy (marine diesel).  Over 9 years and much abuse - still going strong.   When the 'vette needs one (likely soon) it'll be the same.


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Charging the battery (22/25)
 6/21/10 7:50am
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I still have the 'cannot start the car at the most inopportune time' gremlins! 
 
I left home perfectly ok this past Saturday morning (19 June). Ran the A/C the entire time...having the car just come out of a new interior replacement. Drove up I-95 to Daytona (about an hours' driving time from my house). I stopped at the bank in Daytona for some quick cash from the ATM. I had to park the car because the machine was to high for me to reach LOL from a Corvette.
 
Once back at the car (the '82 Vette), it would not start...dead...no clicks, no warning...just a battery light that remained on at each attempt to start was made, then would go off when the key was returned to the off position. The car's meter showed no more than 10 to 11 amps...knowing this was not enough to start the car.
 
The battery is less than a year old (bought it new for the same reason I'm writing here) and the alternator in about a year and a half old (for the same reason here again). The belt is tight and correct...another words, the 'v' in the belt is correct for the alternator. The bolts holding in the battery cable to the side post are tight. I keep the battery on a tender as well when garaged. The park/neutral switch on the gear shift knob works fine too.
 
So, after a jump start, (started right up) I drove home.
 
This 'gremlin' picks its own time to act up...there is no indication of problems at any time while driving. I keep a set of cables in the car just in case.
 
Is this something I have to live with? Probably so. A perfectly working, starting, performing car most days, I find it odd I get this every now and then. Does any body else here experience the same sorta problem??
nasajack2010-06-21 05:36:56

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Charging the battery (23/25)
 6/21/10 11:03am
philip
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Since you have clean and tight connections at the battery start watching the voltmeter more when driving and if it is under 12 volts when running it may not start after it is shut off. It normally should be 13.5 - 14.2 while the engine is running.
10.5 volts is consider a dead battery by the manufacturers. If it starts when you leave your house it could be the the regulator in the alternator is intermittent. Sometimes allowing a charge and other times not. Since you keep it on a tender the battery charge would have lasted about the length of your drive  before running down to the no start condition.
After checking the red wire connection and the plug in to make sure they are tight and clean I would have the alternator checked for output, or if it has a warranty just replace it.

Charging the battery (24/25)
 6/21/10 11:14am
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When you have them test the Alt while in the car turn on the AC to see if any difference, you should also check the wires at the starter, not sure for the 82 but I believe the big red wire from the Alt goes to the starter and meets the positive wire from the battery

Charging the battery (25/25)
 6/21/10 2:04pm
LarryT
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Since you have a '72, how do you have your Battery Tender hooked up?  I worry about the wires from the cigarette lighter, but didn't see and alternative.
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