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454 temperature management

Posted: 6/16/03 9:28pm Message 1 of 17
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My toy is a 1971 LS5 roadster. Those big block are real nice but the heat management is very poor. Usually it stays around 210/220.
I live - and I drive - in Florida. Those days were somewhat hot and my baby does not like it. The temperature gauge goes to the edge of the red zone.
Some guy I met told me that the radiator was undersized (which I tend to agree) since it is the same that the the one that goes with the 350. He also said that there is nothing I can do but to install a custom made radiator and an electric fan (I bet it would improve the situation).|toungecool|
Does someone have experience in this field? Reading through the chats I on this site, I decided to test a 50/50 mix of 93 and 100 octans: The engine runs smooth indeed. Do you think it has something to do with overheating? |smokin|


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454 temperature management

Posted: 6/17/03 1:13am Message 2 of 17
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Wow, a 454 C3 in Florida, I'd save up the bucks and go straight for an aluminum radiator and an electric fan!!

Keeping a 350/350 down to a warm level in Wisconsin is hard enough!!|biggrin|

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|UPDATED|6/17/2003 1:13:25 AM|/UPDATED|



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454 temperature management

Posted: 6/17/03 3:24pm Message 3 of 17
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I don't have a big-block, but I have a '69 with an aluminum radiator and dual electric fans from a '96. There is an article on this online from one of the magazines, I think if you will search on "Big Block From Hell" you will find the article. It looks great and works great. I have a '91 tuned-port in mine so I let the computer switch one of the fans and a temp switch in the head run the other. It never gets much over 200 in traffic with the air on running a 195 thermostat. I don't think the second fan has ever needed to come on. You don't have to cut anything up for this swap.


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Posted: 6/17/03 8:53pm Message 4 of 17
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If you're in Florida, you don't have to worry about freezing. Try running ionized (distilled) water and then add a bottle of wetter water. The wetter water and distilled water will help prevent corrosion. Water alone cools much better than an anti-freeze/water mixture. I also feel that you will probably need an aluminum radiator, but you can try this first. Wetter water costs about $10.00 per bottle.

Mark


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Posted: 6/17/03 9:28pm Message 5 of 17
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Thank you Guys for your feed back. I am sure an aluminum performance radiator with (at least one) electric fan would do the job. I realized I am missing the lower portion of the shroud. I don't know how big the impact is. I will first fix it, then I will consider swapping for an aluminum radiator. I found one on the Eckler's web site at $650. Does it sound right to you?


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Posted: 6/17/03 9:30pm Message 6 of 17
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Thank you Mark,

What is wetter water? Where can I get some?


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Posted: 6/17/03 10:14pm Message 7 of 17
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I agree! i want to know bout this wetter water too |biggrin| my baby has been running around 200-210 when it's hot and i've been getting on her |biggrin| |wavey|


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Posted: 6/17/03 11:00pm Message 8 of 17
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that piece of missing shroud will make a big difference also make shure your seals are in place for the rad and shroud.............stay cool also there is a small air dam under the car that people engore this pushes the air into the radiator make shure its not missing or broke


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Posted: 6/18/03 9:51am Message 9 of 17
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Vette(s): 1969 Monza Red Black Conv / Black Vinal hardtop 454/480 Tremec 5 Speed 308 Posi.Black Leather Interior, PS, PW, Air cond., tilt/tele,AM/FM Cass.-5 Pack CD, Hurst Shifter, side pipes 2004 Yellow convertible with black top and black interior
Do a site search for wetter water and you should find some info about it. I tried it. I made a very slight difference, but it is not the ultimate fix.


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Posted: 6/18/03 12:15pm Message 10 of 17
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I have a Griffin aluminum radiator, I think I bought it direct. It was closer to $500 about 2 years ago. I think the shroud will definately be required to cool well in traffic. I assume you have probably already looked at the fan clutch to be sure it is not worn out.


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