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Cockpit Heat Reduction (1/18)
 10/14/05 12:55pm
Harrytasker
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1978 L48 350ci Coupe, Silver/Dark Grey, Manual Transmission, Still Left Hand Drive.


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It's approaching summer down is this neck of the woods, though the way the weather has been lately you wouldn't think so.

The internal cockpit temperature in my 78 is nice in winter but it's gonna be a killer in summer (aircon doesn't work yet), so apart from fixing the heater, romoving the T-Tops or winding the windows down, are there any suggestion you guys have to reduce the heat in the cockpit.

I have heard of a product by Thermo-Tech called Cool-It, which looks to be a foil lined fabric that you can installed under the carpet so it reflects the heat back to the engine bay and gear box but I cant get it down here (distributor doesn't stock it). I'm contemplating importing it myself.

1. Have you heard of it and is it any good?
2. Do you know of any alternatives that will do the job?

It would be great to be able to buy preformed/cut section for my 78 rather than having to buy sheets and cut it myself, lazy I know.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (2/18)
 10/14/05 7:54pm
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Kiwi Doug , you might want to thumb thru this post, and see if it can give you any hints/help.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (3/18)
 10/14/05 10:41pm
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Thanks for that, some interesting reading . I was out in it today and my right leg is now well done.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (4/18)
 10/15/05 9:53pm
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When I redid my interior last winter I used Reflex from Home Depot and covered the floors, tunnel and back. Reflex is used to cover duct work in homes and looks like bubble wrap with foil on both sides and is 1/4 inch thick. It made the interior much cooler this summer.
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (5/18)
 10/16/05 4:14am
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You might try wrapping the exhaust pipes, under the cockpit area, with the insulating material used around header pipes(don't recall name). It comes in a roll and you can find it at Summit Racing or Jeg's. It's not a cure-all but it's gotta help some. Good luck.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (6/18)
 10/16/05 5:53am
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Harrytasker, did my interior with the reflects heat foil.  Easy to work with, cuts with plain old siccors and glue down with spray adhesive.  Only drawback is you have to pull the carpet out.  Even so, I say it is well worth the effort.  Might be a good excuse to get new carpet.  Anyway, here is a link to a picture of mine with the insulation in.

https://www.c3vetteregistry.com/member_uploads/7101_7200/7104 /int%20insullation.JPG

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (7/18)
 10/19/05 12:02am
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Thanks for all your inputs guys . I surfed the net looking for the products mentioned and ended up purchasing a Dynamat Xtreme Kit from Summit Racing Equipment. Their price was quite good compared to what Dynamat and other distributors were advertising.

Now I just have to contemplate ripping the interior of my car out, something I'm not looking forward to.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (8/18)
 10/19/05 9:20am
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We also have a 78 that had the same issue when we first got it. Very hot
cockpit. It seemed like the heater was always on. There is an adjustment
under the dash for one of the cables that was way out and also the heater
vacuum valve was leaking by. After I replaced the valve and adjusted the
cable the interior is now a lot cooler. When I redo the interior we are
going to put the insulating material under the new carpet. However, it
seems now that we really don't need it anymore. The heater control valve
it seems needs vacuum to turn off, so if its not getting enough vacuum or
is not closing all the way for some reason or another, the heat will seep
into the cockpit. It felt like it was coming up through the floor, but it was
coming out the bottom vents at a very slow rate. Just a thought.
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (9/18)
 10/19/05 9:41am
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I know each model year is different, but my experience mimics that of ammo6.  I put a manual cutoff valve in my heater hose and that solved ALL of my cockpit heat problems.   That may be all you need to do.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (10/18)
 10/19/05 10:29am
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chesh,

i like your idea of the installing that cutoff valve.  it seems like a good idea to try that before ripping out carpet.  where exactly in your heater hose did you put it?

 



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Cockpit Heat Reduction (11/18)
 10/19/05 10:54am
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I can't remember WHICH of the hoses, but I hear that is important.  Chech the thread linked to above - I'm sure it was mentioned there.  As for the location, my '81 comes from the factory with an AUTOMATIC cutoff valve that mounts down low on the back side of the passenger side fender well.  For whatever reason, it wasn't doing its job.  Anyway, I just removed the automatic valve and replaced it with a cheap MANUAL one, in the same location in the hose.  It's also down low where it doesn't show that easily from the top.

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (12/18)
 10/19/05 1:50pm
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I chose not to put a manual shut off valve into the heater hoses like some
had suggested when I was having my issues several years ago. I just went
to the nearby Chevy dealer and purchased a new one to replace the one
that wasn't working. If I remember right it was around $25.00 give or
take some. But remember that was 2 years ago. Since then the
automatic heater shut off has been working fine.   
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (13/18)
 10/19/05 3:30pm
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[QUOTE=chesh]

I know each model year is different, but my experience mimics that of ammo6.  I put a manual cutoff valve in my heater hose and that solved ALL of my cockpit heat problems.   That may be all you need to do.

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I have done the same- installed a shut off valve between the heater core and the engine block, and i will tell you, the car was totally comfortable since i did it. What a difference! you might want to do that before ripping apart your interior putting insulation in. it only cost me about 20 bucks down at the local home depot! theres some posts on here about this.
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (14/18)
 10/21/05 7:57am
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how did you guys determine or test the heater valve was not working

and where is it located



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Cockpit Heat Reduction (15/18)
 10/21/05 8:30am
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I didn't test.  It seems there are only a small number of likely sources of heat in the cockpit: the cut-off valve (which I think earlier C-3s didn't even have!), leaks around the blower motor/duct in the engine compartment, catalytic converter, sidepipes. I don't have the last two and the car is in great shape ond only an '81, so I didn't expect that the seals around the blower ductwork were bad.  So, I just invested the $15 and it happened to solve my problem. 

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Cockpit Heat Reduction (16/18)
 10/21/05 8:33am
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I should have said that you can narrow it down by letting the egine warm up, set the HVAC controls on Vent, cold, and fan on.  If you feel warm air coming out of the ducts, it's either the cutoff valve or leaks in the seals around the ductwork in the engine compartment.
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (17/18)
 10/21/05 11:32am
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If you find that your vents are blowing warm or hot air, even being on full cool, then its def the heating/ac system causing your heat buildup. as i posted earlier, i installed a valve spliced into the heater hose and it works great!

heres a good link that i have referred to when i did it.

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c3/joeveto/Hot_Water_Shut-Off. shtml
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Cockpit Heat Reduction (18/18)
 11/15/05 4:56pm
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I roasted when I bought my car in WI and drove it to Fla in JULY! I had the heater hose disconnected, who needs heat in Fla? Know one I know. Since it rides much cooler but I still want to put the barrier down to go another step. There's not many inches between our seats and the pavement! The guy I bought it from had done a frame off restoration but with a northern mentality. I'm sure he removed the metal heat barriers under the car. Happy driving be it hot or cool
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