Topic: Overheat... kind of
in Forum: C3 Cooling and Heating Systems

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You have the right ideas to check, in the right order. Good luck!!

Joel Adams
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Did you check the coolant level in the radiator (not the overflow tank)? The smoke in the oil fill could be water vapor , like in headgasket leak. Just a thought, hope its not, hope its condensation.
Maybe try a radiator pressure tester for leak down. hopefully someplace like autozone will let you borrow one.

Light her back up again and don't forget to feel the upper radiator hose. I assume your coolant level is up to the top of the radiator.
If the hose isn't hot when the gauge says it is, you're not getting any circulation. You may have some sort of an airlock keeping the water away from the water pump. I had this pesky problem with my wife's '86 and filling the system through a heater hose got the block filled, problem went away. The 86 line from the radiator to the water pump takes a twisty path up and over a frame rail which yours likely does not.
If the hose gets good and hot, it might just be the fan clutch. Those things do wear out over 30 years or so. If the fan turns freely by hand while the engine is hot, you have a shot fan clutch.
Don't worry too much, as a BRIEF encounter over 260 probably is OK, but 300 scares even me. Once you get the overheating problem solved, by all means, drain and refill. These things do not like brown water.
Before refilling, flush it real good with fresh water through the heater hose and out the top of the radiator, you'll have to pull the thermostat to flush.
To get all the water out, you should open or remove the drain plugs from either side of the engine block. You won't get a full 50 - 50 antifreeze mix with the block full of water, but that likely doesn't matter a whole lot in FL.
Dave

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Your car will have a "plug", NOT a petcock, to drain the radiator(unless it has been changed somewhere down the line). Do yourself a favor, and don't mess with it! I can almost guarantee it will twist the entire fitting out of the radiator, and then you'll be pulling the rad. to take to the repair shop!
I have learned this on MANY older cars with the plug type drain, including my '74. While it is a big pain to take the lower hose off, it is the best way to drain the rad., along with the "block plugs" on the side of the engine.
There's no problem with draining the water into the pan you use for oil changes. Just clean it after with paper towels. I only have one large drainpan, that works for anything I need it for.

I think if your rad. has a lot of funk in it, it would be a good idea to pull it, and have it professionally cleaned. Then you could flush the engine while the rad. is out.

If the water level in the rad. was 6" down, then it is low. When you start the engine, the level will go down, as the pump pulls the coolant into the engine. You need some free space in the rad., but 6" is excessive. You may have a leak in the hose to the overflow tank. If it has a leak, it will not be able to return the coolant to the rad. when it needs it(after cooling down). Fill the rad. to about an inch below the rim, where the cap goes, and make sure the overflow is filled to the "Full Cold" mark. Try that and see if the overheat is still as bad.

Joel Adams
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Joel --- My 74 has a petcock valve on the bottom, right side of the radiator. I just drained, flushed and replaced the antifreeze in my system a month ago. If it was supposed to have a plug, I wonder if the previous owner replaced mine with a petcock or maybe replaced the radiator.
Larry

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I thought about doing that when I busted the rad. on my '74, but then, it wouldn't be "original"!



The original set-up was a plug, but a petcock would be the way to go, if you didn't give a hoot about "originality".

Joel Adams
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