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Rear wheel noise

Posted: 12/11/07 2:49pm Message 1 of 33
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Vette(s): 1979 L48 Resto-Mod. ZZ383 w/ TKO-500 manual transmission. Centerforce clutch. Tail light conversion. A/C. BeCool radiator. Red exterior with custom black and white leather interior by Mid America Motorworks.
I was taking the Vette out for a weekend drive and noticed a problem.
After about 2 hours of driving, the rear driver side wheel started to make a "grinding/squeeking" noise.  I brought her home and let it sit for a few hours, took it back out to analyze the problem...and it had gotten better.  Instead of squeeking/grinding all the time, it only happens when you get on the throttle.  This varies between acceleration rates (ie. it will grind at slow acceleration one time, and only at fast acceleration other times).   Any ideas??

No vibrations noticed.  No difference in the handling.  I've cleaned the brake rotors and calipers...still making noise.  I know that my parking brake needs adjustment (it doesn't stop the car from rolling forward, and barely stops it from rolling backward). I'm stumped.








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Rear wheel noise

Posted: 12/11/07 4:09pm Message 2 of 33
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You should check out your rear wheel bearings. Jack up each side and check to see if there is lateral movement of that wheel.




 
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Rear wheel noise

Posted: 12/11/07 4:44pm Message 3 of 33
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checked that. I jacked up each side, grabbed the tire at the top/bottom and left/right sides...very little to no movement.  I am going to try and adjust the parking brake to see if that helps.  any gotcha's with that?? 



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Posted: 12/11/07 5:30pm Message 4 of 33
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Sounds like a U-Joint going out.


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Posted: 12/11/07 10:02pm Message 5 of 33
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A "grinding/skweeking" noise in the rear is usually a wheel bearing, whether there is play in them or not.
Of course, it can also be the park brake, so check all of the easy stuff first.


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Rear wheel noise

Posted: 12/12/07 6:29am Message 6 of 33
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Okay.  So here is what I've got...  I'm going to appologize for the long post, but I want to be as detailed as possible in the hopes that someone who is more mechanically inclined/experienced can help me out...

I adjusted the parking brake at the hub and the equalizer spring per the haines manual. The parking brake on the driver side is the one giving me trouble.  When i test drove the car last night, no problems.  Today on the way to work, the driver side parking brake seemed to engage and started squeeking.  I know its the parking brake due to the fact that you can change the pitch of the squeeking by actuating the  the parking brake...and also by the burning brake smell Wink
 
Here is the other issue I'm having. I'm thinking that this problem is definitely a wheel bearing...but just for the sake of getting opinions, I'll describe what I've got....
When starting from a stand still, there is a clunk on the same wheel..varries between one solid clunk and a few smaller ones...but it is very pronounced, audible, and you can feel it in your seat when it happens.  What do ya'll think?    



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Posted: 12/12/07 6:56am Message 7 of 33
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    Usually a wheelbearing will make noises all the time. It will change according to speed. I loud clunck seems to me like a uni joint - maybe. With the car on the ground and in gear, crawl underneath and try to rotate the half-shafts with your hands back and forth. If the uni's are tight, there should be little or no movement. If the movement seems to be more than you think it should be, I'd have them checked out further. Have you tried to feel the hub after driving for awhile? if the wheel bearing is bad or going bad, there will be an excess amount of heat right at the spindle area.


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Posted: 12/12/07 7:47am Message 8 of 33
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[QUOTE=78SEvette]    Usually a wheelbearing will make noises all the time. It will change according to speed. I loud clunck seems to me like a uni joint - maybe. With the car on the ground and in gear, crawl underneath and try to rotate the half-shafts with your hands back and forth. If the uni's are tight, there should be little or no movement. If the movement seems to be more than you think it should be, I'd have them checked out further. Have you tried to feel the hub after driving for awhile? if the wheel bearing is bad or going bad, there will be an excess amount of heat right at the spindle area.[/QUOTE]
 
I'm gonna take the car to the auto hobby shop on base during my lunch break and adjust the parking brake.  I'll check the Ujoints while I'm under there. 



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Posted: 12/12/07 11:14am Message 9 of 33
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The trailing arm bushings could also cause a clunk on take-off, as could the front diff cushions.
You'll prolly find a bad u-joint, regardless!


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Rear wheel noise

Posted: 12/12/07 3:26pm Message 10 of 33
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Took the car to the hobby shop at lunchtime.  This is what I've found.  1. The parking brake cable on the driver side hub is disconnected. For now i have zip-tied it to the rear control arm. 2. The U-joints are in excellent shape. No movement at all.  3. The wheel bearings are all good.

I honestly think that my problem lies within the hub under the rotors where the parking brake components are at.   Here's my question.  Can you take the caliper off without disconnecting the lines?    And second....WHAT THE HECK WAS CHEVY THINKING WHEN THEY RIVETED THE ROTORS TO THE HUB???!!!!  Wits%20End    Anyway..any tricks to drilling those darn things out?? Should I be cautious of anything or just have at it??





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