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Blower motor fan running when off (1/26)
 10/17/08 1:53pm
csradley
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Hi Guys,

I am having an issue with my 1977 corvette, well I think it is an issue.. My blower motor is running on low speed as soon as I turn the key to on. This is with the blower switch on the off position and heater/ac on off. I can use the blower motor switch and put it to low/med/high and everything works fine but again the blower motor is running on low speed as soon as I turn key to the on position.

I took a look at the schematics and if I pull the tan wire going to the blower motor resister I get normal operation, low/med/high and the blower motor is not running on low speed with the switch to off position. But the tan wire according to the schematics is going to 12 V to the fuse box and is suppose to be that way so I am kinda stumped here.

Any insight?
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Blower motor fan running when off (2/26)
 10/17/08 2:32pm
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On my 78s and 79s there is no off for the blower, it always runs. Does your control show an off or just low,med,high?
Just part of the ventilation system as there are no floor vents in AC Vettes.
I'd think the 77s are the same since that was the first year for the new console and console mounted controls.
Do you have an owners manual? It would be mentioned in there.
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Blower motor fan running when off (3/26)
 10/17/08 3:05pm
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It shows Hi/Med/Low and off. I don't own the owners manual but I guess I can live with it or just disconnect the brown wire going to the blower resister. 

Was really just trying to find out if other vettes are the same way..
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 10/17/08 4:41pm
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On some of the GM's the blower motor runs at a low voltage, Gm's idea was to keep the fan at a slow run from seizing due to non use. I have put a switch in some to stop this and still be able to use the fan when needed...this is done by...
removing the blower fan fuse from the fuse panel
attach a fuseable wire to the hot side of the fuse socket in the fuse panel, you can use a flat spade connector attached to the wire
run this wire to a good 20 or 30 amp micro toggle switch in a holder neatly attached under the dash out of sight but easily reached
I use a black plastic holder with a micro switch with a black toggle boot over it (helps to make it not visable)
I attach the holder to the steering column bracket on the left side
then run a wire with a spade connector to the other side of the fuse socket.
On models with the glass fuses I break a fuse and split into two remove any glass left and trim the fuse link and solder the each wire separately to each fuse end and use them instead of the spade connectors to attach to the fuse panel 
With the switch in the off possition there is no power going to the fan and when you need the fan just turn the switch on.
With the switch off...This will aslo help with reducing heat coming in to the car
Hope this helps
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Blower motor fan running when off (5/26)
 10/17/08 5:16pm
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[QUOTE=csradley]It shows Hi/Med/Low and off.
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Is the 'off' WITH the low/med/high on the fan switch or is it with the top slider for the AC-heat control?
My books show the 77 heater controls the same as my 78-79 control.
As stated in the 78 owners manual
'Notice: Whenever the ignition switch is turned ON, the blower motor will automatically operate at LO, MED, or HI depending on switch setting. There is no OFF position"
 
Does it look like this?
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Blower motor fan running when off (6/26)
 10/17/08 7:18pm
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You need to slide your slider to the off position

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Blower motor fan running when off (7/26)
 10/17/08 8:00pm
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Thanks for the reply back guys. As I remember it the fan control switch has OFF/Low/Med and Hi, so it look like the picture except mine has off as well. I'll verify again in the morning. I can slide the slider to the off position as well and it still blows on low with the fan switch on off and slider on off.  Another thing that seems odd is if I but the slider to max the fan blows on hi speed with no control via the blower/fan switch.
The vette has A/C but it it not fully installed currently, compressor and lines are not on it as I just did a engine swap and plan on converting the system over at some point.
 
My 77 vette is an early year model with alarm switch in the fender if that makes any difference.
 
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 10/17/08 8:11pm
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Maybe pull the controls out turn it on and see if there is sometimg shorting or moving a wire when you slide it to max.
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 10/17/08 8:14pm
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I will check and see if the 1980 vette does the same thing, I don't remember.
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Blower motor fan running when off (10/26)
 10/17/08 8:28pm
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While working on it today, I removed the blower fan switch and it still stays on low. I verified the wiring was good and correct. Next checked the blower resistor and it's good and I checked the relay and it seems to be working as it should. But just in case I am going to replace it tomorrow as it's a cheap part at the local parts house.
 
The only thing that I have found that makes it not run on low when the switch is off is to remove the brown wire from the blower resistor,all other fan fuction still works just not the fan running on low when switch is off.
 
I'll work on it again tomorrow...  But from the post from others it is possible that it is suppose to be that way but then again why would the switch have an off setting?
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Blower motor fan running when off (11/26)
 10/17/08 8:35pm
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Blower motor fan running when off (12/26)
 10/18/08 7:42am
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The blower motor(circuit) is designed for the blower to run on low speed any time the key is on. This has to do with the ventilation issues. One note, tho...it only works this way on the A/C equipped cars. The non-A/C cars do not have this unique feature, since they have vents that can be opened.

Perhaps your switch was replaced somewhere with a switch for a non-A/C car? Just a weird thought, but... If the panel does actually have the word "Off" by the blower switch, AND it has the A/C position on the slider, that seems really weird...

Bottom line is, the fan is supposed to run with the key on, regardless of the blower switch position...

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Blower motor fan running when off (13/26)
 10/18/08 11:41am
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Thanks for the reply Joel, for now I have removed the brown wire from the blower motor resistor and this has done away with that feature. I can't stand the noise of the fan running unless I want it on.

Another question here,

Is there a kit from some of the vette supply houses that replaces all of the ac/heater vacuum lines and the vacuum fitting that connects to the heater/ac controls?
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 10/18/08 6:48pm
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Links not werking, John...
I know there are kits with the vac. lines, and instructions on where they all go, but I don't know about the molded connector("vacuum fitting") that fits on the control...

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 10/18/08 7:02pm
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Part # 663252 and 453047

Corvette Central   open their site select year 1977... in description type in heater vacumn hose,   next search would be.... heater vacumn connector.
Try this let me know I will try to send link
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 10/18/08 7:09pm
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 10/18/08 7:10pm
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 10/18/08 7:12pm
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I can't get the link to work.
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 10/18/08 7:13pm
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 10/18/08 7:15pm
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Still can't get link to work...sorry you will have to look it up by decription or parts number...let me know if this what you are looking for...if not I will search some more for you.
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Blower motor fan running when off (22/26)
 10/19/08 7:05am
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Thanks for all the replys guys, this forum is great.  I was able to fing the vacuum switch that the vacuum lines plug into and the vacuum hose kit but are you suppose to reuse your old rubber vacuum connector as I can't find a replacment.
 
 
Have any of you replaced you heater/ac vaccum lines with the kits from the parts houses, if so how do you connect into the factory rubber vacuum connector that plugs into the heater/ac controls?
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 10/19/08 8:19am
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# 453047 Vac. Hose kit is for Non-A/C cars...
The other number John listed is for the heater wiring harness.

[QUOTE=csradley]how do you connect into the factory rubber vacuum connector that plugs into the heater/ac controls?[/QUOTE]
That's a good question....no real answer for it, tho...
One way I've used is to remove the plastic end of the hose from the connector with a drill bit. Then, you can get plastic vac. fittings(used to "splice" rubber hoses together) and stick them back up into the hole there, and then attach the rubber hose to that. This would make more sense with pics, but I ain't got any.
Hope this helps some...



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Blower motor fan running when off (24/26)
 10/19/08 9:48am
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It should always be running at a low speed, it is designed to run on a low voltage. My 77 fan always runs when the ignition is turned on.
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 10/19/08 2:54pm
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 10/19/08 6:37pm
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Chevrolet called it AstroVentilation.  They do that.  Its normal.  All of them with A/C
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