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2 types of Composite Springs (1/16)
 10/27/07 9:43pm
MartinsVette
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Hi everyone:
 
My rear metal spring is starting show signs of fatigue so I am thinking of putting in a composite spring and was hoping someone might have some first hand experience.
 
I have noticed many spring rates and two different types.
 
The first type I noticed seems to be wider at the ends and comes in several spring rates 315, 330, 360 and 420.  With this style I believe I would want the 330 spring rate.
 
The second type is straighter and it is recommended to use the 340 spring rate for 1980 vettes with standard suspension.
 
Most of my driving will be for pleasure only (Friday night car shows, Sunday and evening driving.
 
If I do any engine mods it will probably be around 350 HP max.
 
In Ontario we are limited to careful driving.  We now have an immediate impound law.  If caught street racing or speeding more than 50 KM (31 Mi) over the limit you lose your license for 7 days and they impound your car immediately then fine you $2,000.00 dollers.  So it is Sunday driving for me!  There have been over 300 seizures in about a month that the law has been in place,
 
Any help or insight about the spring rates would be appreciated.
 
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2 types of Composite Springs (2/16)
 10/28/07 1:45pm
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your thinking is good Martin. I've been running th trw style 340# on 2 cars ( because I found them at Muskegon Brake for $279) and the 1st one I bought felt great to me. Just a little on the performance side (stiff) less weight transfer coming off the line Thumbs%20Up. I love it  personally, and I've heard others say they were just a little stiff for them. Any spring you get will be an improvement.

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 10/28/07 3:23pm
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I have the VBP composite 330# on the rear of my 72 and love the ride. I also have the front mono leaf, did away with the coils and now I can change height and ride firmness with very little effort.

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 10/28/07 6:30pm
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Wow. Very nice Fred. A lot of us are interested in that conversion. Is that also a composite ? Where did you get it ?

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 10/28/07 10:15pm
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  The TRW Style is what GM used on the 81 and 82's. The Straight Ones generaly come from VB&P.  The way they make them is to make three at a Time in there Mold and then When they are Cured they just Cut them to width on a Table Saw.  I put a 330 on my 80' about 20 Years ago when they First Came out and it has Held up Great. The big Problem is Exhaust Heat they don't like it.  If Your exhaust dosn't allready have a Heat Sheild where it passes under the Spring You should Fab one just a Small Sheetmetal one works well. Richard....

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 10/29/07 12:32pm
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The #315 will ride a little softer than the #330.
 
You may want to consider hunting up two standard suspension stock 81-82 composite springs.
 
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 10/29/07 12:35pm
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I just replaced mine with the TRW and I am very happy with it. They do seem to raise the rear end a little even with the 8" bolts that come with the install kit. They also come with the exhaust shield and new bushingsRedwingvette2007-10-29 12:37:31

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 10/29/07 12:40pm
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Thanks for the input guys. 
 
It is interesting to see what everyones opinion is.  I read in this forum several pages back about someone that had a crack in one of the springs and was considering the TRW style, that is what I am leaning toward (340#) as recommended for the 1980 (prefer the poly bushings).
 
Should I keep the old spring for eventual re-sale with the car or will it matter since the steel springs are available?
 
From everything I have read it doesn't sound too hard to do, hopefully there is enough clearance between the car and the ground to remove it (without having to drop the exhaust).  This will be a winter project in the New Year.
 
Thanks,
 
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 10/29/07 2:13pm
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I unbolted the rear muffler clamps and the exhaust hung down enough to get the spring out/in. I had the jackstands placed at the back of the doors and I took the drivers side tire off for extra room. Took me about an hour and a half.

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 10/29/07 9:29pm
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Great,
 
Thanks,  I will get it done over the winter.  My son will probably be of some help.  It gets tougher all the time to get under a car.
 
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 10/29/07 9:52pm
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 Cosidering that Your Car is an 80' (like Mine) It was the First Year of the Dana 44 Aluminum Rear End. It Uses a Diffrent Spring Perch than the previous design and its been so long since I first Installed my original I can't remember if You need to replace the Clamping Plate that Holds it or Not. VB&P might send one with thre Spring and I have no know idea of how TRW dose it. Whenever You Order it be sure to Ask. As Most Springs Sold are for 63' to 79"s ,and 81'to 82's allready had the Composite Spring it Leaves the 80' in the Gray Area. Somebody Here must of run into this issue in the 20 Plus Years since I did Mine and they probably have better Memory. Richard.....

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 10/30/07 1:15pm
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 I've replaced my '81 and the '78. Both with the TRW style. Both came complete with all you need. Just be careful compressing each spring end to start the castle nuts.

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 10/31/07 3:01am
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  Jimmy,  Sorry it took so long to answer, I bought the set from Vette Brakes VBP, they run sales every now and then. The front is a fiberglass mono that can be ajusted very easy to firm up the ride or soften it up. The set is a bolt in, and it was the easiest thing I have done to the car...less than three hours to install. You can buy just the spring kit or the spring and lower A arms and last is upper and lower A arms. Unless your upper arms are bad dont waste the money, just get the lower A arms with the spring. A arms are powder coated and look really good.

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 10/31/07 7:35pm
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Thanks bro. I'm checkin' in to that.

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 10/31/07 8:58pm
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I got the TRW 340# and love it.  Our roads are the worst and this spring really helps smooth out the ride.
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 10/31/07 9:04pm
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Thanks a lot guys!  I really appreciate the feed back.
 
We too have really bad city roads so the TRW spring might just be the ticket.  I'll make sure to ask about the plate.
 
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