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Wipers don't work (1/12)
 6/23/07 5:05pm
Richg70
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The wipers on my 75 do not work.  The wiper motor does work.  I am able to connect the wiper motor terminals to external battery. 

I used a Voltmeter to read 12V on the cable going to the wiper motor.  I also read 12V on the cable that connects to the wiper switch.  I'm thinking I have a ground issue.   I used a jumper wire to the wiper switch to see if I get any movement with the wipers.  I connected 1 end to ground and the other end to one of the wiper switch mounting screws.  Still no wiper movement.
The fact that I can get the wipers to work with external battery and cables tells me I probably have a ground issue or bad wire.  Does anyone have any suggestions. 
 
One interesting thing to note.  I checked for voltage drop on the ground side.  Using Voltmeter I connected the black lead to the negative battery post and the red lead to the ground terminal on the wiper motor.  I got a reading of 12V with no wiper action.  Does that make sense?  I'm just learning all this electrical stuff.
 
As always thanks for the help.
Rich
 
 
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Wipers don't work (2/12)
 6/23/07 6:08pm
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if i understand you correctly, you are getting a 12v reading on the positive wire at the motor.my suggestion would be to take a wire and connect it to the negative side of motor and ground it out. you would be bypassing the negative wire and if wipers work with the extra wire grounded then you would have a bad negative wire. hope this helps.

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Wipers don't work (3/12)
 6/23/07 7:17pm
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The wiper motor works off of a ground signal from the switch. Sorta back-wards from "normal".
The wiper motor should have 12v anytime the key is on. The switch provides different ground paths(resistance) for the different speeds. Check to make sure the wiper switch itself is properly grounded first. More than one person has spent days trying to figure this one out, only to find the wiper switch wasn't screwed into the dash correctly, or...the plug was up-side down!
Run your jumper wire from a good ground to the wiper switch casing, and see what happens.

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Wipers don't work (4/12)
 6/24/07 5:53am
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figures they would make it bass ackwards to confuse the heck out of everyone.  good thing joel was here to save the dayThumbs%20Up.

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Wipers don't work (5/12)
 6/25/07 5:23am
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David/Joel,
Thanks for the help.  I ran my jumper wire from the ground on the wiper motor to ground on the engine and the wipers worked.  I also ran the jumper wire from ground on the wiper motor to the plate where the wiper switch is located and the wipers worked.  Using voltmeter I tested the gound wire that goes for the wiring harness into the wiper motor and it looks bad.  So I guess its the ground cable going to the wiper motor, maybe pinched, or perhaps a loose ground connection in the console?
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Wipers don't work (6/12)
 6/25/07 6:25am
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The switch itself has to be grounded to provide a ground to the wiper motor. You need to correct that first. The switch normally has a small wire attached to one of the screws that hold it to the bezel. If your's doesn't have this wire, try putting one on it from a good ground source. I think this will solve the problem.

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Wipers don't work (7/12)
 6/25/07 8:11am
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Joel,
 
Interesting.  I don't ever recall seeing a small wire from the wiper switch to one of the mounting screws.  That does make sense.  I'll try it tonight.  Thanks!
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 6/25/07 10:22am
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Excellent gentlemen ! The first problem we encountered on the trip to the gathering was the wifes wipers came on and went off by themselves, leaving the wipers in the middle of the windshield. had to remove the arms entirely. I very much appreciate the education BEFORE I get started on it. I'll get 'er done in a short time.

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 6/25/07 6:31pm
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple] The switch itself has to be grounded to provide a ground to the wiper motor. You need to correct that first. The switch normally has a small wire attached to one of the screws that hold it to the bezel. If your's doesn't have this wire, try putting one on it from a good ground source. I think this will solve the problem. [/QUOTE]

Otay...after reading this again, I feel I should clarify my statement...

What I should have said was, "The switch usually has a small wire attached..." because that's the only way someone else could get it to work!
In reality, the switch is supposed to be grounded by the bezel, which is a cast metal piece, and is screwed into a metal part of the dash cross-bracing. That's the way they were...by now, however, the bezel has been in-out of the dash 100 times, and it is no longer capable of providing the wiper switch with a ground, and that is normally because the screw hole threads are stripped, or the particular screws are not even there anymore. That's why most of the ones I see have the extra wire-ground added.
Also, the wipers will not normally work if the bezel is un-attached to the dash...another reason for the extra wire!

Sorry if my statement was mis-leading, or, heaven forbid, confusing!

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Wipers don't work (10/12)
 6/25/07 7:34pm
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Let me just add, if the extra ground wire is not on the switch, put it there just to avoid problems in the future.
 
Joel is right on the money.
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Wipers don't work (11/12)
 6/27/07 4:51pm
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 Hey guys!  I added the ground wire from the wiper switch to the mounting screw and it did not fix the problem.  Could there be a loose ground wire or dirty terminal under the dash?
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 6/27/07 6:53pm
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Check to see if you have power coming from the wiper motor to the switch.  You could have a bad connection somewhere along the line.   Also check to see if the same color wires have power coming out of the motor.  One wire will have power going to the motor when the ignition is on.  If you have power anywhere, that's okay, but you could have lost the power supply altogether.   Keep in mind a very poor connection will show voltage when the circuit is not operating, but when turned on it could drop to almost nothing.
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